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I think for a lot of people a well implemented touchscreen only device has more pros to offset the negatives. I'd say in 5 - 7 years time all high end models will be touchscreen only.
Kind of like how once the cost of technology to run S60 on the cheap has arrived that S40 is pushed to the low end market. People who say they dislike touchscreen phones will come around sooner or later as the phones make better use of them, the interfaces becomes better, etc. |
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Hey guys ! Don't misunderstand me. I do not hate touch screen devices. What I meant was that one day you all might get sick of touch devices and lack of the key press when touch devices are overcrowded in the market. And I don't think you'll be able to text that faster on a touch screen. Anyway, I find the Maemo Linux UI much eye candy than this touch UI (I know ICEman, the UI will be improved), hopefully some devices will run Linux too.
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Without any feedback, you're forced to look at what you are typing AND what is actually being printed as typed, which slows down input. ...and without "multitouch", there's no way to pick up any particular speed, since you have to let go of the display completely before touching another part of it. PLUS, the virtual keyboard actually fills almost the ENTIRE displaying area... so the only thing you see is the keyboard and some of the text you write  Not that I'm blaming it on the operating system. It's just, more or less, how devices with traditional touchscreens work... |
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FastLaneJB, I disagree with you prediction. Remember how they said that SMS would be entirely replaced by MMS - lol. Also it was said that voicecall will be overshadowed by videocall - LOL... this is how you can predict the future. Wouldn't count on it. Let's just say that you'd like to see every future top-end fone as TS-only, others (especially me) would hate this very much.
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I think it's likely that most high-end phones will offer TS, but I doubt that all of them will be TS-only. Slide-out keypads form-factors (both horizontal and vertical) will be used quite a bit I assume...
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My biggest fear since we knew that Nokia had TS phone coming was(and still is) the fact that how responsive will the TS be and how will it work. Because no matter how much i want my phones to have as good screen as my ipod touch(or better) i'm not going to spend any money to tube if the TS input sucks. Thought my favorit would still be N95 like features, big screen, higher res, S60 5th edition and no TS needed, but with full qwerty  |
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20-07-2008, 15:53
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@nbulp - N810 with its QWERTY keyboard is much better.
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mmm... I rather like the 'size' of the phone in the Dark Knight. And if the UI shown in the movie is as good looking and responsive in real life, then I think it's gonna rock.
But thinkin about it, I think the main reason why it would sell, is IF it can do all the things the iPhone cannot. Like having full bluetooth support, MMS, video recording, and all the other stuff Mr.Jobs didn't give us - like a user-replaceable battery. Not really important if it's 'multi-touch' or the same tech as the iPhone...as long as it does those things, and is sold at a competitive price, it'll really sell. cheers! |
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But you obviously took no notice of the several times I have qualified this by saying that this is because of the problems with my hands make it difficult for me to use a lot of normal keypads. |
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Is it true that the symbian would not be FREE as Eldar said ;I read recently that every company using the OS will only contribute $1500 per year beside it does not make sense as I think the whole move is to bust google's free android.
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Hmmm... if Phil The Websurfer means that the ONLY difference between the TS and non-TS UI layout is one touch icon pane, then, as of now, I am a bit worried. That would imply (unless Nokia can pull something extraordinary off in terms of the UI understanding inaccurate presses very precicely) would have to be stylus operated.
Having said that, at the same time, I DO expect that there has to be other differentiation between the two layouts as well. |
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Hopefully that's true - after half the world has already seen it in the Dark Knight, it would be a waste of PR not to announce it now. I was actually kinda surprised that they didn't present it before the Batman premiere...
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Though it's only a mid-ranking device I will be interested to see Nokia's approach to the modern TS device. I wonder if we can expect any upgrade in features compared to the leaks about it earlier in the year? |
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Super Chimp, I don't think so. Eldar mentioned he could possibly make a podcast about Tube next week. But he would rather wait for commercial unit with improved sensor [screen, I think]
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21-07-2008, 15:21
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I doubt that, but still - wouldn't it be better if people actually knew that there is really going to be such a device from Nokia, and that it's not just some mock-up thingy?
I don't think those product placements are available for a nickel and a dime, so why waste an opportunity? |
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Super Chimp, i dunno, i have a feeling you'll feel underwhelmed, in terms of the tube's ui, coming from an iphone, seeing as you like the ui experience of the iphone a lot (not saying there's anything wrong with that).
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hopefully it will have the rumoured specs, cause then there will be tough competition between iphone, i900 etc.. hopefully the ui is as nice to use as iphone´s, although I think it will be more like normal s60 just with touchscreen and not really optimized for finger control, but maybe (and hopefully!
) nokia suprises us..just to remember the specs (from 1st post) : touchscreen with finger based navigation. S60 5th edition 3.2" display with 16m color. QHD resolution 360x640 pixels. 3.2 mpx camera with autofocus. Wifi, GPS and 3.5mm jack. 111 x 52 x 14.5 mm 104g haptic feedback |
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My guess: UI will not be as easy to pick up for non S60 users as iPhone UI is, or as pretty, but will feel very comfortable to all of us who are S60 users already. Application level experience may be key - e.g. how nice it will be to use the music player and video player, gallery etc. with your fingers. I don't mind much if some of the settings and other irregular activities would require stylus.
The camera has to be of the same quality as in N78 or E90, otherwise the phone specs are not good enough (i.e. if the camera is the same as in E66/E71 it would be rather disappointing). |
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