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"SE will launch 2 new cameramobiles on tuesday. One of them will presumably has 1,3 mega pixel camera.
According to mobil.se the 2 modells will have the names S700i and K700i.
S700i will presumably have a camera with 1,3 megapix, which can record videofilms. The display has 260 000 colours. S700i will be in one silvercolour.
Mobil.se report that camera on the K700i presumably have VGA-resolution for videorecording and the display also presumably can handle 65 000 colours. K700i will come in 2 different silver-colours.
Jakob Ryd?n, CEO for the Nordic market, says that he dosn?t know about the new phones, and don?t want to talk about what they will show the media on tuesday."
Source: Mobil.se (http://www.mobil.se/nyheter/visa.asp?id=7772&sid=1)
gaurav311
06-03-2004, 12:25
some valid corrections on japanese scheme given below by Ed.
I cannot say you are wrong. All I can say is that I *have* heard of the new models, and they are *not* S700i etc, and therefore assumed they are for other markets. There is no reason SE will abandon their current model naming scheme - I have this info. from very reliable sources.
If there are BOTH K700i & S700i models shown for the international market on tuesdays, then, yes, I am proven wrong...I doubt it however.
Lets just wait and see.
gaurav311
K700i and S700i are not Japanese phones.
Sonyericsson make handsets for DoCoMo and KDDI in Japan.
DoCoMo's numbering system is as follows.
The manufacturers intitials (in this case SO), followed by the series, of which there are currently 3
25xi (low-end PDC handsets)
50xi (high end PDC handsets)
90xi (W-CDMA handsets)
Therefore, DoCoMo have no 700i series, and even if they did, a "K" prefix would mean the manufacturer was Kyocera.
KDDI's numbering system is as follows.
A for CDMA1x handsets.
W for EV-DO handsets.
The A handsets are followed by a 5 for high-end, or a 1 for low-end. Then a series of numbers depending on their relation in the line of those handsets, ended by the manufacturers initial.
So the "A5501T" is the first in a new line of CDMA 1x high-end handsets from Toshiba, while the "A1402S" is the second in a l ine of low-end handsets from Sonyericsson.
So basically, K700i and S700i do not relate to any Japanese network operators handsets. and finally, manufacturers do not call press conferences to announce phones in Japan.
Japanese phones are unveiled by the networks, without warning.
I believed everything you said up until this point gaurav311, but now I'm doubting it all because your info today is simply not true.:(
gaurav311
06-03-2004, 13:44
I have done a re-check on sources.
Basically:
2-3 T-series, a Z-series, a new never-shown series, all CeBit, and depending on constraints, possibly 1 other model they have hidden till now. To release something called a K700i, especially the "i" bit, in the midrange market makes no sense whatsoever.
I cannot say whether S or K is one of the new series, but *definitely not both will be announced for international market* my source is certain about that.
I guess all we can do is wait till tuesday :)
Psykedelic
06-03-2004, 15:39
This feels like christmas! i´m very exited to see what SE have for us under the tree =O) it could be anything!
kristof.vanriet
06-03-2004, 16:05
why presenting 2 new devices only 2 weeks before CeBIT?
most of the company's wait until cebitshowcase
McKinley
06-03-2004, 17:04
kristof.vanriet
More publicity
SE did this last year too.
Btw. this is what Eldar says:
"...and mobil.se right about naming of this model"
and about the i:
"it's mistake of mobil.se they addressed to future models... not today"
gaurav311
07-03-2004, 01:41
I'm doubting Eldar now...first he mentions T650/T670 in his articles, confirms those, now he's confirming these! He might be right that S700i & K700 are later models, but I have no idea why they would show these now.
2 more days and we'll probably hear totally different names from what we heard the last couple of months. :D Btw. thanks for keeping us up to date with all these info Gaurav.
EldarMurtazin
07-03-2004, 12:00
gaurav311
I couldn't put naming 6-8 earlier then model receiving them... I know internal women names of this models... It was my guess that the naming would be as T-series... now it's different but specs are the same...
there is just one thing i'm abit confused about
its the K ... some time ago there was a spy pic of a candybar phone around ... but a candybar phone normaly has the sympolic T next two the model number ... so was this pic really the T650 or just another model
i have to guesses > that the S is the SO505i phone - and the K just a suprise
> that the K is the gsm SO505i and the S is a sporty version of the T630 with a better cam and so on
jack087
wait for cibit to see the T series
Originally posted by gaurav311
I'm doubting Eldar now...first he mentions T650/T670 in his articles, confirms those, now he's confirming these! He might be right that S700i & K700 are later models, but I have no idea why they would show these now.
I wouldn't put my bets on Eldars claims either. Before the Nokia Communicator was released he claimed that he had played with it a couple of hours and said that it's got a touchscreen. Well, as everyone knows there isn't. Everyone can believe whatever they want, but atleast I have my doubts about Eldars "information"...
gaurav311
07-03-2004, 17:37
looks like txxx has become k700 for whatever reason. S700i uses similar lcd in D410 that eldar showed which is good (256k). k stands for cameraphone - midsector has not had this before so its a special launch, the design is very young, like a new fasion series by se (with designer name etc attached - nokia are copying 8850 here). edit: "new" midsector, since S700 opens up their new "highend" sector. K700 will be surprisingly cheap on release.
gaurav311
07-03-2004, 17:48
btw i did not doubt s series, but k-series seems to have been a quick marketing change done by se to differentiate fashion line from t-series. i still have my doubts but lets see..
EldarMurtazin
07-03-2004, 20:53
orange
it was a earliest proto :)
in any case now I have all official infos...
Eldar let us see the picture :D
EldarMurtazin
08-03-2004, 10:27
draak 1
22 hours to go :) I finish russian article, translator preparing english one
Huh, so you already have the article ready with pictures and all?? Im counting down to read it!!
Originally posted by EldarMurtazin
orange
it was a earliest proto :)
I just happen to know, that it didn't have touchscreen in any time... ;)
im interested in seeing whether sony is gonna continue to do transplant for PDC-GSM (or, if they're gonna produce a GSM version for A5404S? :) actually it looks a bit like the Z series, the 120 degree hinge thing )
it's interesting to see that sony is one of the NTT suppliers that have NEVER produced a single W-CDMA 3G phone (evidently no SO900i, and there has been no SO20xx, but, they do have CDMA 2000 1x phones e.g. A5404S)
i wonder if SE jp sticks to ericsson's UTMS chip, adn it's *jsut* not ready yet for some reason?
I read in an interview with Mike van der Wallen from SE, that SE is going to use more and more technologies from Japan in their phones because they're planning to reduce the difference between Japan and Europe from 2 years to a couple of months. So I hope that tomorrow will be the beginning of this plan.
McKinley
08-03-2004, 19:17
deuxani
Ahhh it is about time...
It's about time that Sony play with Ericsson :D
there we go
news published on mobile-review.com
eldar was right
as always :D
K700 looks very intressting indeed.
the k700 is indeed a cool phone
i first thought that i go with the S700 but its abit too large, and just because of its cam and the display i won't wait till Q4
i have one question - at sonyericsson.com it says that the K700 is able to play mp3's how ?
are you able to get them with bluetooth to your phone or how ?
There's a PC cable in the box - says so on their web site.
There is also handset mgt utility.
Presume you can also use BT or IR if you want but cable would be faster. (
K700 comes with a media player app.
that would be really cool if i can transfer mp3's from my pc to the cell phone
btw:
great thanx to gaurav311 and to all the information you gave to us, great work!!! keep it up
also great work and thx to eldar, not just because of those pics and info but also because you never freaked out because always one of us always posted the same question "Any infos on the t650"
also a "keep it up" for you
even with its impressive design.. the s700 isnt as good as the mpx100 specs.. aside from the screen of course..
McKinley
10-03-2004, 00:47
2nr
Isn't MPX100 a smartphone?
Yeah, it's based on Windows Smartphone 2003 edition.
Smartphone LMAO, theres a joke in there somewhere ;)
gaurav311
10-03-2004, 17:39
mpx features (except for the large keyboard one) are going to be very common - SE K7 basically has everything, plus metal body, and nokia have their size advantage. I don't see much appeal in Moto's lineup.
gaurav311
10-03-2004, 17:49
orange,
even a ?50 pda can have touchscreen. what makes it so difficult to believe nokia didn't have touch in ANY prototypes with that? It's something they obviously had to consider at some point. Also, the 9500 I played with had no wifi, a lot was "on paper" only, and eldar may be implying that touchscreen was planned in final product.
Either way, in case anyone's wondering, nokia have another 9xxx model coming out 6 months after 9500, and that one definately has touchscreen. Obviously they won't want to comment on anything like that to anyone yet :)
As far as what I think, 9500 was the result of constant accumulating stuff Nokia kept getting (EGDE, Camera) and something should have come out ages ago but was delayed because it was not different enough from 9210i and a marketing push would not pay off. When they got EDGE I'm assuming someone said "lets get this thing out finally its getting silly" and they kicked it out of the door, and are now prepping the 9800.
Gaurav, is the K700 the first E100 phone you told us about and the S700 the second one or will there be another cool phone between them? Cause I'm desperately looking for a new SE with MP3 player and expandable memory (cause 32MB on the K700 is just not enough).
gaurav311
11-03-2004, 01:36
The 32MB is really just for collecting photos and small sounds. S700 is good as MP3 player though - you could stick in a 256MB mem stick and you're good to go. That said, S700 is quite big and heavy, and new things will be released then (small cheap 3-4mp cams, new mp3 players) what will lessen the appeal. My advice as always is to get a seperate proper MP3 player. Even the new Minidisc are 1GB per disc, and better controls & battery - no phone can really compare to that, and the iPod takes it even further with size. And it's cheaper. SE will show the P1000 and a new Z in October, the clamshell is definately E100 220x178, and they will be out similar time to S700. P1000 will have same camera as S700, but 480x288 pixel display and wireless, and cost $200 more. It will have no E100 though, but still support music thru mem stick pro duo, and have totally new UI from before also.
thanasis
11-03-2004, 03:46
@gaurav
Can we expext any suprises from SE at cebit or will their be no new phone launches untill communicasia?
thanx
Originally posted by gaurav311
orange,
even a ?50 pda can have touchscreen. what makes it so difficult to believe nokia didn't have touch in ANY prototypes with that? It's something they obviously had to consider at some point. Also, the 9500 I played with had no wifi, a lot was "on paper" only, and eldar may be implying that touchscreen was planned in final product.
Either way, in case anyone's wondering, nokia have another 9xxx model coming out 6 months after 9500, and that one definately has touchscreen. Obviously they won't want to comment on anything like that to anyone yet :)
As far as what I think, 9500 was the result of constant accumulating stuff Nokia kept getting (EGDE, Camera) and something should have come out ages ago but was delayed because it was not different enough from 9210i and a marketing push would not pay off. When they got EDGE I'm assuming someone said "lets get this thing out finally its getting silly" and they kicked it out of the door, and are now prepping the 9800.
As you wish or whatever....
Hehe but I really want everything in one device Gaurav. Have you read the post of Aziz in the SE forum about the T650 and Z700? That's what I'm looking for. :D
gaurav311
11-03-2004, 15:36
orange,
I have good information telling me the 9500 is an interim product with relatively short expected lifespan. Despite what nokia may want everyone to believe it is well known inside industry that they will have to replace it faster than usual due to many factors you and me know about. 9800 was an "idea" number, of course that hasn't been allocated yet, I am just trying to give an idea that there is something "upgraded" than 9500 out in 2005 to compete with what will be out then. If you work for Nokia, then it is understandable that you don't want to let anyone know.
others,
I haven't really heard of any other SE that may be annonced CeBit. A value model was planned but it looks like SE has decided instead to ramp up T630 supply and reduce price to fill gap.
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