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shyguy
02-03-2004, 10:20
wouldnt it be something if they came out with 524k screen or 1048 k.... i think possible within the year !!

mono
16 colours
256
4 k
65 k
262 k

and now what....??

what do u guys think???

McKinley
02-03-2004, 11:30
shyguy

I don't think it will be like that
Straight on millions of colour after 262k

-The Andyman-
02-03-2004, 11:42
there is no need for anything more than 262k even 65k colours is enuff 4 now

-The Andyman-
02-03-2004, 11:44
with the rite screen and resolution 65k is plenty enuff long at samsung screens TFT 65k most 128 x 160 resolution very bright and sharp wat more do u need.

altho compared to fones in korea and japan with 262k 240 x 320 resolution it makes it look poor but still

bohdan
02-03-2004, 12:08
1500k like in A503CA

McKinley
02-03-2004, 12:08
-The Andyman-

You are right.. there are really no needs for millions of colours in those tiny displays.

LemonNB
02-03-2004, 15:06
Nearly every phone released now has 262K TFT so I think they need to start improving the resolution, like sharp have with the 65K GX20/21/22/27. I know using colour dithering the 21/22 can display 262K but the GX20 at only 65K is better than every one elses 262K screens. Its all down tot he pixel size and resolution, otherwise the number of colours is just that a number!

Shmee150
02-03-2004, 15:44
I think we will have to wait until 262K comes common on new handsets, and then somebody will realease something special with millions of colours, although i don't expect that to be for quite some time.

ShMeE

LemonNB
02-03-2004, 15:54
Originally posted by Shmee150
I think we will have to wait until 262K comes common on new handsets, and then somebody will realease something special with millions of colours, although i don't expect that to be for quite some time.

ShMeE

I am over here in taiwan for a few months and every handset released over here in the last few months has allready got a 262K. Its just the big manufacturers that haven't got round to it yet. Before you start thinking they are not GSM handsets, well they are! And all will work perfectly well on the UK networks. But like I said above if the resolution is not improved then its a waste of the extra colours. All the 262K TFT's I have tried over here are only slightly better than the best 65K tfts.

shyguy
02-03-2004, 19:04
i personally wouldnt mind extra million colours.....
but it should support the phone also, like the sharp mobiles, i dont knw which technology they use but normal 65k looks much better than any other mobile with 65 k screen!!

kristof.vanriet
03-03-2004, 17:13
you've got
1 bit - Black and white
4 bit - 16 colors
8 bit - 256 colors
12 bit - 4096 colors
16 bit - 65 536 colors
18 bit - 262144 colors
24 bit - 16 777 216 colors
32 bit - 4 294 967 296 colors
very simple counting by 2^bit

so the next stem will probably be 24 bit, but i think that we won't see them very fast... If you for example take a good (+- 600 Euro) handheld, the most duable screen is a 16 bit (sometimes 18 bit)... i think that's a price vs quality vs batterylife issue. we won't see more in the near future.

Delphi
04-03-2004, 01:20
Next evolution will be to 16M which will be at the end of 2005 for mobile phones. However this will be for marketing as the human eye does not 16M colours and there is no content out there that uses this number of colours. The same issue will be true for display resolution as well. at 320 x 240 in a 2.2 inch display the resolution is so high that any higher resolution in this size display will display more information than the eye can see. Still lots of people will buy these handsets because the number is higher.

shyguy
04-03-2004, 14:58
kristof.vanriet:
you've got
1 bit - Black and white
4 bit - 16 colors
8 bit - 256 colors
12 bit - 4096 colors
16 bit - 65 536 colors
18 bit - 262144 colors
24 bit - 16 777 216 colors
32 bit - 4 294 967 296 colors
very simple counting by 2^bit

well well well..... u DO learn something NEW everyday!!
Thnx for the info!!
:-)

rao_88
05-03-2004, 12:04
I don't think that anything above 262K will really make much of a difference. By the law of diminishing returns, the difference reduces drastically as the numbers increase.
For instance, the difference between 1 colour and 4 colours is going to make more sense than the difference between 65K and 262K.

LemonNB
05-03-2004, 12:35
Yup, agreed, they can now concentrate on resolution, squeeze millions of tiny pixels in there :D

shyguy
06-03-2004, 13:12
wouldnt u want a bigger screen with more colours? i mean if u see any handset, u'll see there is a space abt 0.5cm to 1 cm border,around the screen, which is useless, instead of that space make a bigger screen which can support more pixels and colours??

-The Andyman-
07-03-2004, 01:55
shyguy


the classic example has 2 be the nokia 7200 with about 2sm around the border of the screen

Delphi
07-03-2004, 16:57
The challenge with the space round the display is that you need somewhere to put the drivers for the display. This is what you see with most handsets these days until you move to very expensive new technology for the display and display drivers.

Focusing on resolution is good but the human eye has real limitiations so over 320 x 240 on a 2.2 inch display any improvement will be lost and likewise anything over 65K colours is for marketing as you can not see the difference.

Michael_Korjen@MobileMob
02-04-2004, 08:11
There is simple no need for a display with a higher resolution than 65k. If you view current phone displays with a 65k colour resolution, then it is easy to see that there is no need for such a feature. Introducing a 262k colour resolution will just be another useless feature put onto phones for profit making purposes. It will become another redundant feature!

LemonNB
02-04-2004, 08:24
Originally posted by Michael_Korjen@MobileMob
There is simple no need for a display with a higher resolution than 65k. If you view current phone displays with a 65k colour resolution, then it is easy to see that there is no need for such a feature. Introducing a 262k colour resolution will just be another useless feature put onto phones for profit making purposes. It will become another redundant feature!

You would say that, you own a nokia LOL:eyes: . Its all about resolution and smaller pixel size. 262K is the norm now, and that is enough colours for the human eye. Reducing pixel size and raising the resolution of the screen is the way to move forward. Just look at sharps GX30/31/32 screen for proof!:beer:

Rogger
02-04-2004, 13:20
LemonNB
My pc displays 16.7 million colours, as does yours. They don't do that for no reason...
I can see more than 262x colours, even if I can't name them. :)

dxreaper
02-04-2004, 17:59
i guess pc coz it has more pixels and larger.. so can see gradients and all claere

shyguy
01-05-2004, 17:32
lets hope the screen also evolves as the phone and not get left way behind.......

bart
02-05-2004, 22:13
there are limites to everything you know.

saliquincer
03-05-2004, 21:44
first of all samsung can do this ... or 1 asian company !!