View Full Version : Wii is about to become the most popular nexgen console!!!
well, at least according to
http://www.nexgenwars.com/
it's 12,011,470 vs. 11,922,128 for xbox360 and Wii.
Seems Wii will overtake Xbox360 quite a bit earlier than my previous "around X'mas" prediction.
Now let the countdown begin!!! :D
The Day Has Finally Come!!! :cool:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7951/wiiwinqu5.jpg
hmm, but i still count PS3 as the final winner at the end of the lifecycle of the next-gen console
yeah i still think ps3 will win at the end...
wii is fun to play but games are for kids.. and the graphics are not good.
koЯngear
31-10-2007, 19:45
I agree with jo (about this concern:D).
I think PS3 is more capable to play games than xbox 360. But xbox 360 has better graphics.
Wii is for them what Jo said.
Still cannot say the PS3 will be the winner. Micro shit will start to produce the xbox 360 in 65 nm technology.
XGlite015
10-11-2007, 17:12
Wii managed to catch up with the Xbox 360 sales despite having more than a year head start, that's impressive. It's really hard to tell if the PS3 can make a comeback. In the console wars, once you hit 3rd place, you stay there. Even worst, Ken Kutaragi(the father of the Playstation) got fired, it wasn't a voluntary resignation, he was forced to step down because of his failure and Sony's losses regarding the PS3. Sony's plans to push blu ray and make it popular did not turn out well. The PS2 which have few quality games in its initial release pushed the DVD market and it was successful but this time Sony failed with the Blu Ray plan. In some parts of the world, Samsung Electronics is overtaking Sony in the consumer electronics market. It seems that Sony Ericsson is the bright spot of the company after all. Most gamers don't seem to care about the Ps3 in 3rd place, some don't really care if Sony loses the 7th generation console war, only fanboys seem to care.
i want a ff13 i only care about that :love: that is a game with mind blowing graphics, good plot and always a new game system implemented in it.
I have a Wii...Its a great, fun console. I don't play my Wii for graphics or power or anything, I use my PC for that (PC will ALWAYS be the gaming king.)
The Wii is an all around fun console. Everyone can enjoy it. And there are some really good games out and coming out for it.
As for the PS3... sure, a couple decent games are out or coming out soon for it. So what. For some reason sony says this console is the most powerful, yet the graphics suck. Its hard to make games for it. I've seen better visuals on a PC 2 years ago. The only think I like it for is the fact its a decent blu-ray player and an amazing Folding@Home machine. Hopefully some decent games will come out, and the price will drop again.
I don't have a Wii, and I'm not a heavy gamer...
But Wii (for party gaming) + HighEnd PC (for solo and MMP games) would also be my choice is money wasn't an issue...
yeah i still think ps3 will win at the end...
wii is fun to play but games are for kids.. and the graphics are not good.
well the Wii games are not for kids, but most are for casual playing. That's why I play Wii a lot recently, as I don't have much time to play games for long periods of time when I have a busy job and a family now. Wii is surprisingly good for some half hour sessions of relax.
For serious gaming, I always have my PC, and really there are just too many good games that I don't have nearly enough time to play them all. I'm still half way in The Witcher, I'll try finish it in this new year break :)
The future doesn't look too good for the PS3 from recent statistics. They had some sales spike after the 40G version launch, but now goes down the pit again.
November 2007 monthly console sales in US
Wii - 981,000
X360 - 770,000
PS3 - 466,000
December 17-23 weekly console sales in Japan
Wii - 232,970
PS3 - 58,167
X360 - 7,908
Source (http://www.levelup.cn/news/NewsDetails/2007-12-28/25290.shtml)
Whats so special about Wii?I thought PS3 would be most common as more ps2 were sold and it is the latest technology wise.
besides, the wii's been out a year or so and the 360 a bit longer... so isnt it just fair that they'll sell more than the ps3 wich came out last ?
Exactly, the thing these counts never include is time on the market. They should give the time and a rate of sales too for a better idea.
The Wii will sell the most consoles for the near future as it is the cheapest and appeals to a wide market though I don't really class it ias a true "next gen" console.
People who would not normally buy a games console may buy a Wii for fun party games while PS3/360 owners may also buy one as it is so different to those two consoles. However not many people will buy both the PS3 and the 360, they will usually have one or the other.
The 360 has been out the longest but I saw on Gamer TV (who are huge xbox fanboys) that the number of WORKING 360s is only actually around 7,000,000.
The PS3 will have a longer life than the 360 and that is reflected in Sony's approach to marketing it. Nothing has been rushed as they are confident that a sound product with greater future proofing will achieve their goal.
Whats so special about Wii?I thought PS3 would be most common as more ps2 were sold and it is the latest technology wise.
Wii is special in that it's a good console to have some casual gaming, to have family members play together, and to do something more than just sitting there still staring at the TV for the 30 mins time before bed.
It seems pulling out the backward compatibility from the new batch of PS3 is a bad idea, since PS2 is still selling better than PS3, so without PS2 compatibility, although it will increase PS2 sales even more, it also reduce sales of the PS3.
besides, the wii's been out a year or so and the 360 a bit longer... so isnt it just fair that they'll sell more than the ps3 wich came out last ?
Errr... AFAIK, PS3 was released earlier than Wii in both US and Japan :spy:
Errr... AFAIK, PS3 was released earlier than Wii in both US and Japan :spy:
oh... i was referring to the UK... ahem lol
ok now, the fireworks here for the new year are over and im bored.. so i did abit of pointless math!
lets just IMAGINE (lol) that the above figures are for uk alone (see, i wouldnt make a very good mathmetician, basing my results on imagination) :D
since the release dates here in uk, the:
x:360 would have sold 15,756 daily
pS3 would have sold 17,691 daily
Wii would have sold 31,030 daily
told you i was bored! :rotate: ok, now my head hurts!! lol
:hMd:
Wii release dates: (dd-mm-yy)
Japan: 02-12-06
US: 19-11-06
UK: 08-12-06
PS3 release dates:
Japan: 11-11-06
US: 17-11-06
UK: 23-03-07
360 release dates:
Japan: 10-12-05
US: 22-11-05
UK: 02-12-05
As you can see the PS3 was out marginally before the Wii in Japan, approximately the same time in the US and over 3 months later in the UK. The Japan and US release dates are so close there is very little time to make a real difference.
The 360 meanwhile has at least a year headstart on both the others.
Wii release dates: (dd-mm-yy)
Japan: 02-12-06
US: 19-11-06
UK: 08-12-06
PS3 release dates:
Japan: 11-11-06
US: 17-11-06
UK: 23-03-07
360 release dates:
Japan: 10-12-05
US: 22-11-05
UK: 02-12-05
As you can see the PS3 was out marginally before the Wii in Japan, approximately the same time in the US and over 3 months later in the UK. The Japan and US release dates are so close there is very little time to make a real difference.
The 360 meanwhile has at least a year headstart on both the others.
well, PS3 was out three weeks before Wii in Japan, and now even in UK PS3 is out for over 9 months, so I doubt a 3 months lead back then means any more than a three weeks lead back then for the current situation.
And the statistics I posted was about US and Japan, nothing about UK.
PS3 sales did get some spikes over Wii in the weeks when the 40G version was just released, but now it drops back down to the bottom again.
sshock2 still it sold more in a year that microsoft xbox360.
if they were released at the same time ps3 would be second... who knows with the time. and a further price drop will make the ps3 sell even faster...
the ps3 is going to stay longer than the other consoles... be sure it will pass microsoft
well, the recent price drop did make PS3 sell faster... for a couple weeks :p
The Wii will sell the most consoles for the near future as it is the cheapest and appeals to a wide market though I don't really class it ias a true "next gen" console.
That depends on how you see "next gen". if it's about better graphics, then yea Wii may not be "next gen". however if it's about new gaming experience, then Wii may be the only true "next gen" :)
Which I suppose makes it an "alternate gen" ;)
That is exactly the Wii's advantage as I said before. The PS3 and 360 are currently in competition for the same market and few people will buy both. The Wii however appeals to an alternate market AND is bought buy PS3 and 360 owners as an alternate gaming experience.
Awesome_Aleks
03-01-2008, 04:12
sshock2 is right in how you determine "Next-Gen"
the Wii has a very next-gen control system, whereas the PS3 has Next-Gen online gaming and high powered graphics, and it can also play "Next-Gen movies"
The only one I can classify as a next-gen for a reason is the Wii!
That said, I still prefer my PS3
If u classify Wii as next-gen just because of the control system, then what would you call PS3's controller with its 3axis motion system?
Not to mention PS3's control system are built in the system, unlike Wii's one, the receiver is a separate hardware device that you should put above your TV :)
PS3 has them all.. Wii's motion and Xbox's 360 powerhorse.
I also think that the PS3 is the most advanced and best gaming console.
Lets not get into another typical console war ;)
360 has the current advantages of being out longest, a wide game selection and stubborn fan base from the original xbox :P
This is a short term success for MS but also a disaster in reliability and the extended warranty they had to issue has cost around $1billion I believe.
I wouldn't be surprised to see another one or two versions before too long, maybe finally with built in WiFi and HD-DVD as it should be?
PS3 has the advantages of being the only complete multimedia machine with greatest future proofing. This console will be a success for Sony over the time scale they expect and we will see developers start to make use of its power over the next year.
The disadvantages have been a slow start with fewer games and an initially high price which has sadly roused the anti-Sony brigade.
The Wii has the advantage of being cheap and appealing to a much wider market. The control system is good for party games but has many flaws for serious games imho such as the lack of fine sensitivity for small movements and the loss of control if you are at an angle to the receiver.
All consoles will sell, and have already sold many units. Choose the one which best suits your needs and don't get angry when other people choose differently ;)
Mik
koЯngear
03-01-2008, 18:24
But the fact is as mik told xbox 360 has great variety of games as of today. Halo, PGR, etc etc. And the graphics tend to be better in xbox 360. The bioshock is released only for PC and xbox 360 why it did not release with PS3 while PS3 does need a good powerful game library?
I though agree PS3 is a complete emtertainment package. Its BD player is really cool.
halo is overrated... and some games microsoft got exclusivity
good gran turismo 5 and ff13 are still exclusives
Awesome_Aleks
04-01-2008, 06:20
The thing I'm impressed about is Uncharted's graphics, which were done using 35% of the PS3's power, and only 1 year into release!
the coming years are going to be fantastic!
I can't wait for Gran Turismo 5's release, hopefully it will incorporate some awesome Forza features such as customisation (body kits, paint jobs, etc) different regions (living in a region influences car availability and pricing) and maybe a car marketplace!
all in glorious 1080p *gargle*
isnīt this topic to talk about the wii???
Awesome_Aleks
04-01-2008, 23:11
isnīt this topic to talk about the wii???
It's to talk about the most popluar console, which will be the PS3 :p
i got a wii for xmas and its the most fun on a console ive had in a long time, good to see nintendo doing things differently and being more creative!
the only complete entertainment machine is the PC. And the PC = too expensive is just a myth. you can easily assemble a E2140 + 8800GT rig with $600 that can play Crysis at High settings okay which no current console will ever be able to do. And much larger HDD, and DVD burning ability, etc.
If u classify Wii as next-gen just because of the control system, then what would you call PS3's controller with its 3axis motion system?
Not to mention PS3's control system are built in the system, unlike Wii's one, the receiver is a separate hardware device that you should put above your TV :)
PS3 has them all.. Wii's motion and Xbox's 360 powerhorse.
it's not about the controller, it's about the gaming experience. That's what matters most for a game console, and games for general too. That's why I'd say The Witcher >>>> Crysis anyday :cool:
Oh and PS3 doesn't have Wii's motion control. Its sixaxis controller just detects the motion of the controller itself, but not the motion of the controller relative to the screen, that's why it doesn't require a receiver, and won't have Wii controller's light gun kind of functions.
[B]sshock2[/B+ its clear you haven't see it your self with a 8800 you can play crysis at low :P. in a puny 27fps.
you need a 8800 ultra in tri sli to run at high in 37fps.
about the controller is an accesory... look now they added rumble.... be sure in the next months PS3 will be able to add features.. but you can't add a complete motherboard to the wii.
Awesome_Aleks
08-01-2008, 11:05
the only complete entertainment machine is the PC. And the PC = too expensive is just a myth. you can easily assemble a E2140 + 8800GT rig with $600 that can play Crysis at High settings okay which no current console will ever be able to do. And much larger HDD, and DVD burning ability, etc.
ROFL
no you can't
$600 US is very expensive anyway
you can get a 40GB PS3 for $399 US which is a Blu-Ray player as well as a games machine etc etc
+ Linux for computer functions!
Not only will you not get a high end gaming PC for the price of a PS3, as Aleks mentioned it certainly won't have a Blu-Ray player and probably most importantly....I don't want an ugly PC sat underneath my TV ;)
[B]sshock2[/B+ its clear you haven't see it your self with a 8800 you can play crysis at low :P. in a puny 27fps.
you need a 8800 ultra in tri sli to run at high in 37fps.
about the controller is an accesory... look now they added rumble.... be sure in the next months PS3 will be able to add features.. but you can't add a complete motherboard to the wii.
nope, obviously you are the one here who haven't tried a 8800GT yourself.
8800GT, 1280*1024, High, 36fps avg. I've benched it myself. Do you need a screenshot?
It's the High -> Very High that takes the most hit.
Of course the PS3 will have light gun accessories I'm sure, but how many out there with a PS3 will buy it? how many game company is willing to develop a game that specifically needs a feature that requires some add-on hardware? rumble is a minor thing that can be turned on and off freely, but PS3 won't deliver Wii's gaming experience as much as Wii won't do a motherboard upgrade, unless Sony wants to take suicide and try force all existing PS3 owners buy some extra accessory.
Someone before complained about the precision of the Wii's "remote" controller, but you can buy a traditional style controller for Wii too. However that doesn't mean Wii is good for those "serious precision" gaming, because it's not the standard controller. You should never count on some extra add-on hardware for a console. It's the same for PS3.
ROFL
no you can't
$600 US is very expensive anyway
you can get a 40GB PS3 for $399 US which is a Blu-Ray player as well as a games machine etc etc
+ Linux for computer functions!
ROFL yes I can, you better try something yourself before blabbering craps out of your mouth. :lol:
$399 for a puny 40G HDD, or $499 for a puny 80G HDD. A $600 PC can get you 320G HDD, a DVD burner, and much better versatility, not expensive at all if you compare the functionality and price.
Not only will you not get a high end gaming PC for the price of a PS3, as Aleks mentioned it certainly won't have a Blu-Ray player and probably most importantly....I don't want an ugly PC sat underneath my TV ;)
you won't be able to get a high-end gaming PC, but you'll get one that can play all the games okay, which is what the consoles are about anyway. Interestingly, the PC version of the WE2008 (PES2008), a famous game for consoles, is the best version since you can adjust the resolution and details to make it play smooth and fun, where the PS3 version sucks for slow downs.
If you really want Blu-ray player, you can toss in $100 more to get one, sure the price will drop drastically over time, and that's why PC is most versatile, you can always buy whatever you need, at whenever the time is right, of your own choice.
For aesthetics, that's purely subjective, I think both PS3 and Wii don't look any better than my PC anyway :p
Matt1980
29-05-2008, 01:21
Of course they are hitting every age range and making it into a health thing. You've got tennis, swords, and so many different types of games for everyone it would be a shame not to play.
FastLaneJB
01-06-2008, 20:54
While I too would love for the PC to be the all dominating gaming force, it's days are numbered. I personally am not bothered by the cost. I enjoy strategy games and first person shooters when I have time to play games (Which isn't too often these days). Both are best played on a keyboard and mouse in my opinion.
Also some of my favourite games of all time would have to be Counter-Strike which started out as a free mod for Half Life. Without being on a computer for people to make this mod for free, it would never have existed. My other favourite is Warcraft 3 and a map for that called DOTA. Also made for free by people with the map editor. Neither of these could exist on a console, your stuck playing the games as provided.
However PC games just don't sell enough these days. If you discard World Of Warcraft, the rest are picking up little pieces. Game makers are here to make money and the money is not in the PC market. Add to that the fact that most PC's sold always skimp on their graphics hardware that there isn't such a large base of machines that can run games as intended. Finally you've got all the compatibility problems, driver issues, etc that the average person just isn't up to dealing with.
So I'm afraid consoles are the future of gaming, even if I wish it wasn't so. I'm sure the PC will continue to get some games but just the big budget ones will become less and less. Sad if you ask me.
Though once you stop needing to upgrade your PC regularly for games and buy a console with a shelf life of 5 odd years if not a bit more, you'll save some money that's for sure.
Personally I'm looking forward to a really good first person shooter on the Wii that you can play online. I think it's got to come closest to a mouse for shoot and aim, should be quite a blast to play.
FastLaneJB in the ps3 you can use a mouse a keyboard for a shooter :P
FastLaneJB
02-06-2008, 00:36
FastLaneJB in the ps3 you can use a mouse a keyboard for a shooter :P
Yes and when I read about it for Unreal Tournament 3 it mentions that the keyboard / mouse combo is limited in some regards to make it fair for people using the pad. Hence it's not the same.
After all I think most should agree with me that the people on the keyboard / mouse are going to have a serious advantage over people with just the control pad in an FPS.
It's kind of like back in the days when I first started playing Counter Strike. People with a Voodoo based graphics card would have serious frame rate drops when smoke grenades were used or the flash light was turned on and off. So with my Geforce graphics card I could lob in a smoke grenade while flashing my flash light and knife kill a whole room of Voodoo card owners because they literally dropped to a frame or two a second. Unfair but funny.
On a console everyone is in the same boat, their machine is the same speed. Their control system exactly the same. That is a bonus if you ask me. Now if they made games where everyone had to use a keyboard and a mouse then that would be fine too but most people have their consoles under a TV in the living room. Not a good place to have a keyboard and mouse.
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