Nokia 5610 xpress music

[sms]

http://europe.nokia.com/5610

Capture every moment with the 3.2 mega-pixel camera and 8 x digital zoom with dual LED flash. Video call in QCIF to see your callers and let them see you!

[M H]

Great specs :up:

[Super Chimp]

Good phone. And unlike 'certain' other companies music phones it has a good camera & good video recording.

[Mweb]

Indeed M.H, Nokia hits the Walkman right where it hurts :D, really impressive.

[sms]

live photos via engadget
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/08/nokia-5610-hands-on-01.jpg
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/nokia-xpressmusic-5610-hands-on/

[2kewl]

Looks Gorgeous..Specs are awesome!

This one could well be the W killer :D

[sms]

This one could well be the W killer

wait untill you know the price:

300 euro!

[Awesome_Aleks]

i love the mix of camera and music on this phone, $500 AU is a bit expensive (5700 is currently $400 AU), but i suppose it will drop significantly when released in Australia over the web

[Ruhul]

I am interested to see the black colored phone.

[csae2014]

hmm, now I don't know if to take the 6500slide or the 5610xm ... ;-)

5610 a really great phone. and superb specs ;-)
do you think the new "strange" slider under the screen is just for activating radio or musicplayer or you can use it also for browsing through tracks and your music-library?

and: I was very surprised by the low price... 300euro

[Super Chimp]

When is it released?

[csae2014]

at gsmarena I saw the black-blu one. looks better than the walkman-orange ;-)

[sms]

Q4, all devices announced today are expected to be released in the fourth quarter.

[2kewl]

300 EUR is unbelievable. Im getting this babe as soon as its out :D

[Mweb]

300 EUR is unbelievable. Im getting this babe as soon as its out :D

On UK PAYG that could be as low as 150-200 quid, very tempting indeed.

[Franz]

Yeah, for what is this thing under the screen?

[2kewl]

^^ I believe that's the music slider for Radio and music player

[**^ramintop^**]

Indeed M.H, Nokia hits the Walkman right where it hurts :D, really impressive.

?????? do you have to bring SE to every nokia thread?! it does have nice specs,but not much for a 17.4mm thick phone!

i like this phone's design and it have good specs,but its fat! why didnt they slim it down?!

[Jo]

ITS SEXY i love it.
walkman reign is finally over :P

[2kewl]

Extended specs and the sales package contents >> http://www.planete-nokia.com/phpBB2/index.php?showtopic=46935&pid=407183&st=0&#entry407183

[Awesome_Aleks]

hmm, now I don't know if to take the 6500slide or the 5610xm ... ;-)

it's quite an interesting proposition

5610: 3.2 megapixel camera with no Carl Zeiss optics, no TV OUT, it has IrDA (unlike 6500), better styling (in my opinion), its slightly larger in every aspect, it has small aluminium plating as opposed to full stainless steel, although it weighs less, and it has the small slide under the display for the music functions

i would pick the 5610 because i am oriented towards music, and cheap ;)

EDIT: and a dedicated audio chip, very very nice!

[Jo]

i will get one of these in blue.
but the 3.5mm jackport is built in or 2.5 with adapter?

[Awesome_Aleks]

i will get one of these in blue.
but the 3.5mm jackport is built in or 2.5 with adapter?

2.5 + adaptor unfortunately

[sms]

its Series 40 5th Edition, Feature Pack 1!
video is VGA 15fps.

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/5610_XpressMusic

[Awesome_Aleks]

its Series 40 5th Edition, Feature Pack 1!

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/5610_XpressMusic

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

MY NEXT PHONE FOR SURE!!!!!

that would explain how the slider works, it goes over the top oif whatever program is currently running

5310 is FP1 as well!

EDIT: i hope the flash works as a torch as well :(

[Mweb]

?????? do you have to bring SE to every nokia thread?! it does have nice specs,but not much for a 17.4mm thick phone!

i like this phone's design and it have good specs,but its fat! why didnt they slim it down?!

It's SO obviously targeted at the Walkman market, so it's a blindingly obvious comparison to make!!

[Awesome_Aleks]

It's SO obviously targeted at the Walkman market, so it's a blindingly obvious comparison to make!!

yep, and i'm dieing for reasons not to switch to Sony-Ericsson

the 5610 has the new technology xumdeo mentioned a while ago, a real-time equalizer that changes depending on the music

[playdead]

that slide button works freaky nice!! Remore songs, videos, also in the menu, everything slides so nice...
Buttons are NOT touch-sencetive

[Ruhul]

***ramintop***, they didn't make it too slim, because they want not to show the cause of breaking keypad like that : the red/blue paint chemically reacts with black color and breaks the keypad.

[Argus]

Datasheet in pdf is now aviable http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Press/Press_Events/Nokia_Go_Play/pdf/Nokia_5610_XpressMusic_data_sheet.pdf

[chlettn]

that slide button works freaky nice!! Remore songs, videos, also in the menu, everything slides so nice...
Buttons are NOT touch-sencetive

Any hands-on video in the making? Sounds interesting.

Generally, that's a rather cool device at a very competitive price imho. Cool!

[csae2014]

playdead

...how to "slide" through the menu?

[kII]

so basically the xm version of the 6500 slide, brilliant devise specwise, only problem i have with it is the 2.5mm jack, but i guess the adapter kinda makes up for that, will start savinf up from now for it.

[Shengst3r]

hey....no offense but....does it look particularily like a certain W?? huh?...lol.....but its nice...i like it....my jaws dropped looking at it....i guess it was a mistake getting a 5700 eh?....camera departments loses FLAT...haha...but 5700 got stereo speaker and its s60(some may like it).....hahaha..tempting man....if i din live under the expenses of my father..i will sell my 5700 to get one of this baby man....well..u win some u lose some eh?...haha


Playdead
lets say u slide the thing to the left and push the middle button....it goes to video or music?....is that how it works?....tempting....~why do i have to be a 15 year old kid with no money huh!!!:(....when i grow up....i wanna be like playdead....:rotate:~

[N_F]

The ultimate music phone.

what a stupid mistake i've made by purchasing 5300 today

gotta sell it tomorrow :P

[Super Chimp]

If this appears quickly I could see it taking sales off the upcoming Walkman phones like the W910.

[Ruhul]

Playdead, is there any change of music player from 6500s. How's the loudspeaker quality? Superchimp, i am 900% agree with you.

I can see this baby is going to harm the 6500's sale vastly.

[Super Chimp]

Playdead, is there any change of music player from 6500s. How's the loudspeaker quality? Superchimp, i am 900% agree with you.

It really is a race to market for the W910 & 5610.

[chlettn]

I can see this baby is going to harm the 6500's sale vastly.

I don't think so actually - this is squarely aimed at the youth/active market, why the much more sober design of the 6500 Slide appeals more to a older/more classic group of people imho...

It really is a race to market for the W910 & 5610.

That depends a lot on the W910's price I'd say - if playdead's W910 price prediction is accurate (470?) and this comes out at 300? and a bit I think this might enjoy much better sales even if it comes out later...

[csae2014]

playdead...
it's great that you've already had your hands on the 5610.
plz, tell us something about the musicslider under the screen...

[N90]

In its data sheet its given high resolution videos at 30fps and video capture in mpeg4 and h.264. is it right?

[chlettn]

http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/nokia-go-play-en.shtml

[Super Chimp]

5610 = music/youth version of the 6500 slide.
5310 = music/youth version of the 6500 classic.

[**^ramintop^**]

http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=6103

[Wilbur]

Impressive device! With that price tag it will be very competitive. But does it record 30fps video, forum nokia states only 15fps? http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/5610_XpressMusic

[csae2014]

uff, I have to wait.
I can get my next phone only in half a year... which phone 5610 or 6500slide will be cheaper then? what do you think.
I know the estimated price of the 6500slide is higher, but it comes out earlier....

[Jo]

iread that tooo some sites says 30fps video recording, i am sure they mean playing

[xkube]

wow! this phone is nuts!! im confuse!!! ilove that navi botton style..

[radeonboy]

I don't know why, I don't really like this phone in black..I prefer a white one

The black color looks too dark, but other than the color, this is one excellent phone:eek: Wonder if this will come to America :-/

[Jo]

radeonboy its quadband, and their is a specially crafted version for the american 3g

[csae2014]

on all the pics of the 5610 you can see an "ascetic" version of the multimediaplayer... do you think you're able to change the layout of the player like in the 6500series?

[Shengst3r]

woooo...seeing the video..now i know how the slider works.....very nice feature!!!....dang....regrets regrets.....the blue one looks nicer...=)....

[Jo]

csae2014 if version 5 yes, the 5th edition player is FULLY skinnable, meaning what you saw its probably a skin.
EDIT:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hh_q5u1vcfE

YEs its skinable and support album arts!

btw: the screen of the n95 is GORGEROUS.

[playdead]

Guys, sorry, I can't say much now regarding this phone :(
The slider button under the screen works different, depending on where are you now. On the standby it activating radio or mp3 player quickly, and you can switch between them and standby screen. In the player it works like FF, in the radio mode - to browse the stations. It remind me samsung G600 realisation a bit, there is animation when you slide the button right or left, current screen information slides as well, opening new one. It looks nice and I'm sure people will like this a lot, it is good innovation for music phone. The device is priced right and will have great sales, and it's so obvious that nokia is targetting on walkman market... the device remind me w850 a lot with rubberized back and red colored details. Loudspeaker is pretty poor, not comparable with stereospeakers of 5700, but i find it enoung for many.
The phone is glossy and the keys are glossy as well, but cleaned they looks nice. Black polished flat surface... but keys are not touch-sencetive, they feel comfortable and have good respond.

Sound quality is main focus for nokia, expect it to be really good. In combination with even more renewed mp3 player interface (thanx to s40v5 fp1, it has same type of very nice skins dedicated for player menu, animated equalizers, changing automaticly from the type of music you're listening to, animated buttons, album arts etc) 5610 becomes ultimate music phone, there's no doubts about this.

[Awesome_Aleks]

according to Nokia Asia, this phone has 512MB of internal memory + the microsd slot

its getting more tempting all the time :)

http://www.nokia-asia.com/A4515036

it's under memory functions

EDIT:playdead, thank you very much for your comments, they were extremely insightful and helpful (expecially your comment about music quality and loudspeaker), don't forget to tell us more when you can ;)

i am extremely pleased with this statement, and i'm sure the camera side of things will be above average as well

5610 becomes ultimate music phone

[csae2014]

playdead, your comments are always great. lucky you to have yet tested the phone.
I think to understand really how the slider-thing works ...one has to test it by himself.
...can you browse also through your music-library or just skip to the next song in mediaplayer-mode?

[sms]

The slider button under the screen works different, depending on where are you now. On the standby it activating radio or mp3 player quickly, and you can switch between them and standby screen. In the player it works like FF, in the radio mode - to browse the stations. It remind me samsung G600 realisation a bit, there is animation when you slide the button right or left, current screen information slides as well, opening new one. It looks nice and I'm sure people will like this a lot, it is good innovation for music phone.

this sliding button looks usefull!

with rubberized back and red colored details.

so it is rubber! is the back of the 5310 rubber too?

[Awesome_Aleks]

The slider button under the screen works different, depending on where are you now. On the standby it activating radio or mp3 player quickly, and you can switch between them and standby screen. In the player it works like FF, in the radio mode - to browse the stations

this statement is slightly confusing, you say it can be switched into the player and backl, but you also say it can be used to fast forward...

does this mean if you hold the slider in it can fast forward tracks? (or maybe switch tracks which would be excellent outside of music mode, as this would far more then make up for the missing music keys)

[Ruhul]

I am shocked. The loudspeaker is poor? My god. A huge drawback for me. Playdead, the loudspeaker how poor compared to 6500s? Please answer.

[knights]

finally a great music player + good camera on a great priced phone + it really looks good(IMO)... NOKIA is really serious now...

I am shocked. The loudspeaker is poor?
im sorry, but how often you listened to your music through loudspeaker?

[varsamakos]

finally a great music player + good camera on a great priced phone + it really looks good(IMO)... NOKIA is really serious now...


Tottally agree!!
This is the phone that many of us were expexting from XpressMusic series...

I am excited !!

+ I still can't unerstand how Nokia keep the price in that level (300 euros)...But i'm gonna think a lot about that, let's wait for more info...

Playdead you are always here for us, thirsty readers, thanks :) !!

[Ruhul]

Knights, i never hear music through loudspeake. But it is very important for incoming calls. I think very loudspeakers are a big feature for phones.
Playdead, do you mean the loudspeaker is average or really poor. I will be happy if it has half loudnes of k750.

Will it be available on september?

[claudio]

Will it be available on september?
Nokia says Q4 so anytime between october-december it will be released !

[Awesome_Aleks]

Nokia says Q4 so anytime between october-december it will be released !

the mobile-review article says it has a release date of November, just in time for Christmas

[Ruhul]

I hope it will launch quickly.
mweb6161, i am quite aware about double post. Just look at the posting time difference. It was about 18 hour.

[csae2014]

I love that phone?
but I have to said that I don't know if I like the new slider under the display

[sms]

but I have to said that I don't know if I like the new slider under the display

you'll like it when you know how functional it is! ;)

[csae2014]

I hope so.
release in Q4... so I have to a few months, then I can try it in a shop

[Ruhul]

Playdead, Does it comes with 1GB memory card? Last question : does the loudspeaker is compareable with w850? Answer please

[Awesome_Aleks]

Playdead, Does it comes with 1GB memory card? Last question : does the loudspeaker is compareable with w850? Answer please

according to nokia-asia, it will come with a 512MB memory card, that website also says that the phone will have 512MB of internal memory (don't count on it) so that is in effect 1GB

however in Europe, depending on country it will come with a 512MB or 1GB memory card

[Jo]

Ruhul its better i can bet on that :P

[sms]

the blue/black color looks good:
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Page=2&Id=3605

[Jo]

sms i love it in blue.
the screen is gorgerous...
does this have navy wheel too like the n81 or a search with text like the n95 8gb?

[Ruhul]

This phone looked very slim and beautiful on those photos. I like it very much.

[Awesome_Aleks]

wow, the blue one looks sophisticated in those pics, a shame they didn't have any live pics of the red one

screen looks fantastic as welll

[knights]

playdead

i just want to ask you about the playlist managemnt of 5610 and other s40 fp1 phones... is it more like s60 ones?

[varsamakos]

It looks too thin in these pics...
I don't get that in the pics i've seen before...
Btw, black-blue colours seems to be more attractive than red-black one...

[playdead]

knights, nope. playlists are similar to 6300.

memory card volume is depending on country, generally 512 mb for 5610 and 2 gb for 5310

Loudspeaker is poor only compared to stereospeakers!! Don't change the sence of my words!

I really liked the slider mechanism, it is very smooth. When I thried the samples, I haven't found any differences in FP1 compared to S40 5th edition 6500 classic and slide...

5310 is very solid device which is going to have huge sales, it's really pleasant in reality. Plastic quality is really nice on both.

I've compared both 5310 and 5610 ti N81 with one headset, and N81 has been louder, better in sound department, but the difference isn't big.

Regarding slider button on 5610: it won't have all the functionality I said before in commercial samples it seems. It does not matter where you are now, either menu, or active standby, or any application, the slider button ALWAYS switch you to player or radio mode. FF is not possible atm, we'll see what's will change later, as nokia stuff said.

[Ruhul]

Playdead, does it support multitasking?

[Awesome_Aleks]

Loudspeaker is poor only compared to stereospeakers!! Don't change the sence of my words!

oh! thats certainly good news, i hope it's similar in quality & loudness to the 5300

[2kewl]

Thanks playdead, You are of great help :)

[a2k24]

playdead if u could rate the 3, in music department, on a scale of 1 to 10 (ten being N91s quality)..??

[Super Chimp]

knights, nope. playlists are similar to 6300.

memory card volume is depending on country, generally 512 mb for 5610 and 2 gb for 5310

Loudspeaker is poor only compared to stereospeakers!! Don't change the sence of my words!

I really liked the slider mechanism, it is very smooth. When I thried the samples, I haven't found any differences in FP1 compared to S40 5th edition 6500 classic and slide...

5310 is very solid device which is going to have huge sales, it's really pleasant in reality. Plastic quality is really nice on both.

I've compared both 5310 and 5610 ti N81 with one headset, and N81 has been louder, better in sound department, but the difference isn't big.

Regarding slider button on 5610: it won't have all the functionality I said before in commercial samples it seems. It does not matter where you are now, either menu, or active standby, or any application, the slider button ALWAYS switch you to player or radio mode. FF is not possible atm, we'll see what's will change later, as nokia stuff said.

How would you say it compares to what will probable be it's main rival the SE W910?

[playdead]

Ruhul, no

Super Chimp, w910 is different. It's more fashion thin phone rather than music phone. Its price is very high for music phone. R&D need to be working better.
Who is main audithory for bright colored music phones? right, young people. Are majority of young people capable to pay a lot for their fones? No. That's why nokia's xpressmusic devices priced low, sell tons and have huge success while certain walkman phones lowering their sales...

[knights]

nope. playlists are similar to 6300.
still poor....
That's why nokia's xpressmusic devices priced low, sell tons and have huge success while certain walkman phones lowering their sales...

looks like nokia is really serious now...

[MonoEvolver]

I was going to buy either a Samsung G600, Sony Ericsson T-650 or Motorola RAZR2 V8 until I saw this. I had narrowed down the choice to the Samsung G600 (with the help of everyone over at the Samsung forum here), but after looking more at the 5610, decided to wait it out, as it's spec is very impressive.

When I got to Carphone Warehouse, I was still undecided. I looked at the G600 and was amazed, but somehow it didn't win me over 100% for some reason (the message tones are horrid for such a classy phone and why you can't use MP3 tones when the U600 can is beyond me). I had a look at the T-650, and I felt the same about that (I didn't like the metal-coated plastic, it felt a little cheap on the inside when you took the battery cover off), something wasn't selling me on either of them anough to get one and I'm quite glad now, as it seems the 5610 would be more me.

My daughter has the black 5300 with the speakers and (for the money) it's a great little phone. The 5610 however, is in a whole new leauge! :eek:

[Ruhul]

Playdead,when the review will arrive?

[2kewl]

Any news on the release date?

I hope the slide's delay doesn't affect this release.

[sms]

Any news on the release date?

Eldar said in his article about Goplay that it is going to be released in November, so it's too early to ask I guess.

[overflowingenergie]

does it support for java multitasking? u know, while browsing via opera mini, go to pocket dict french-eng and chatting and playing music and texting my frenz?:-) please, please, please answer. thx

[sms]

overflowingenergie, no it doesn't.

[Awesome_Aleks]

overflowingenergie, no it doesn't.

it does support multi-tasking a little bit

you can listen to music while sending a text message (as well as other stuff) but thats pretty much it, you cant run multiple applications at the same time like Symbian smartphones

[overflowingenergie]

OK, then. how bout minimizing java, and then go to write a sms? like w800i? no 2 apps on the go, but 1 apps but minimized? please please please help me.
thx

[Awesome_Aleks]

OK, then. how bout minimizing java, and then go to write a sms?

i don't think so, but then again this is a completely new version of S40 which none of use normal people have ever used, it might but don't get your hopes up

[akili@matrix_hacker]

Nokia is doing nice phones lately.

[diaboleek]

Jo
iread that tooo some sites says 30fps video recording, i am sure they mean playing
You mean 30 FPS video recording and 15 FPS video playback?!:lol:

[Super Chimp]

Any word yet on when we will see this phone in the UK?

[playdead]

November as nokia says!

[Ruhul]

Playdead, when the review will arrive?

[playdead]

Ruhul, when nokia will supply samples :)

[csae2014]

any new information?

[csae2014]

a review and interesting article:

http://www.smape.com/en/reviews/nokia/Nokia_XpressMusic-rev.html

[varsamakos]

Ruhul, when nokia will supply samples :)

Playdead, no samples yet :-/ ?

[2kewl]

csae2014, Thanx!
That review has only added to my expectations. This one's gonna rock!

[csae2014]

:jump:
it's defintly my next phone.

[csae2014]

i saw some cool flash-animations with clocks and so on. does the 5610 support that kind of wallpaper or background image?


the 5310XM is already out... when will arrive the 5610?

[silverwolf0]

I think they are available right now from retailers.

$400
http://cti-miami.com/products/nokia-5610-blue.html
$600
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Nokia/Nokia_5610.HTML

[varsamakos]

I want to ask you something :

As we all know, in music player we can change skins , so - is it possible , via nokia theme editor, to create other skins or "just" Nokia's skins ?

[radiologist1234]

Any new informations ???????:(:(:(:(

[xell]

Had a view at one today in a local store. Played a bit with it, pretty nice phone, the radio/menu/mp3-bar is pretty handy. Slider mechanism was solid. Only thing I disliked was the keypad.

[varsamakos]

Only thing I disliked was the keypad.

Because of :-/ ?

[xell]

I am not very used to sliders of any kind, so I found the softkeys a bit too far away. Nothing wrong about the build quality, though. Just personal preference.

[2kewl]

HAs anyone here got it yet?

[MonoEvolver]

Does anyone know if it's available in the UK yet? The 5310 XpressMusic phone is available now at Carphone Warehouse (and has been for just over a week), but I haven't seen the 5610 yet.

[Mweb]

16th of nov i believe :D

[MonoEvolver]

Hmm, not too long then! I was told that it might be around the 19th, but that there was no set date for them to arrive. Looks like it will be a great handset. Looking forward to see it.

[M H]

5610 xm is already available in Serbia: http://www.mobilnisvet.com/mobilni-cenovnik/1/Mobillwood
340 euros. A fair price if you ask me

[Pixel Peeper]

5610 already out in many Asian countries.....

[athos1111]

The imported (1 year warranty, not 2yr like in case the official Hungarian devices) 5610xm is ~290€ whereas the 5310xm is ~280€ LOL :D

HERE (http://www.gsmdepo.hu/modules.php?name=Shop&s_op=viewproduct&cid=6&min=15&orderby=titleA&show=15) [HUF-EUR conversion rate about 252:1]

[varsamakos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijk4v-rRakM

Check this out :rotate: !!

[MonoEvolver]

A strange thing happened when I was in Carphone Warehouse today.

I asked the store manager about the 5610 and he said that Carphone Warehouse are not getting the handset in anytime soon and maybe not even this year, due to an "un-named network" having an exclusive on it. As a result of this, it has been removed from the "coming soon" section of the website, so that people (such as myself) stop asking about it.

When I asked "do you know which network has it for the UK?", he went very silent and said he didn't know, though I got the impression that he did. The conversation ended right there and I was left puzzled!

I checked the Carphone Warehouse website when I got home and sure enough, it wasn't in the coming soon section anymore, even though it was there a few weeks ago. :insane:

Anyone else know anything about this?

[9mmpistol]

MonoEvolver

Well that doesnt sound fun. I hope its T mobile, my contract needs renewing soon and i want that phone.

Any confirmation/news?

[enerlevel]

the phones out for sure. i saw a "used" one in the mobile market. but it was already sold :( all i got to see was the empty box

[9mmpistol]

I work at Currys and we havent had any in yet?

[indup]

9mmpistol

do currys sell payandgo or contract or both and what are their prices compared to the rest of the highstreet?

[9mmpistol]

Well, currys are part of a larger company, DSGi. DSGi recently sold The Link, so Currys have started to take on the mobile market.

As of a couple of weeks ago, we do contracts, but none of our staff (including myself) have had any formal training, so in terms of pricing, i have no idea! I cant see us being cheap though. :-/

[enerlevel]

yea its out officially today. 5610 goes for 416$ and 5310 for 316$.

they both have audio chip so does tht mean the sound is more like 5700 or n91? can anyone plz confirm this?

[MonoEvolver]

The 5610 seems to have a SIM free price of £214.99 on play.com in the UK and looks to be available from the 19th of this month.

[enerlevel]

camera position , speaker , slide , screen , size, the 5610 looks very much like 6500. only tht one has a carl Zeuis cam and the other has DSP. can anyone share us a photo taken from the cam of 5610? is it the same as the 6500 slide? or does carl zeus cam really makes a difference after all!

[csae2014]

I've read in some italian mobilephoneforum that there are people who already have bought the phone. And I found some italian internetshops where the 5610 costs about 280euro. ...

[knights]

the sound is more like 5700 or n91

5700 is nowhere near n91 or even n81.... "dedicated audio chip" is just a badge there...

[varsamakos]

Is it true that in 5610 you can't change skins like 7500 - 6500 ?
One of my friends has this phone and he said to me that the available skins are only painting-changed skins in each colour (red-blue) ...

[csae2014]

varsamakos, i hope that's not the case. 'coz I like the option to change the outlook of the player very much (although I've not tried the phones yet)

[samuelby]

i found an interesting link.. but in taiwanese... its 5610 vs. N73 and 5610 takes better photos than N73...:jump:

http://www.eprice.com.tw/news/?news_id=6320

[varsamakos]

Nice find samuelby :) !

[2kewl]

Lovely Pics there, samuelby! :jump:

[varsamakos]

Ι have my 5610 in my hands :jump: !

Excellent :rotate: !!

[2kewl]

Review please, varsamakos! :)

How much did you get it for?

[Awesome_Aleks]

Review please, varsamakos! :)

Yeah! Please give us a reivew!!!

[Ruhul]

Vars, i want a long review concerning loudspeaker compared to 3250, music quality, headset quality, display and many more. So congratulations.

[varsamakos]

Thanks ruhul !

I pay for 5610 339 euros !
Eh, guys, the phone is just awesome !!

Sorry but my english don't let me give you a looong review :( ...

So, as far as I can !

To start with, I must say that there are many changes in 5th edition !
-The icons in the menu are nicer than in 6233 etc. (nice animated)
-When you have a message or a missed call the slide-button light-up every 30 seconds (that's very helpful)
-When you hane a message the phone shows you the sender's name ,the time tha you got the message and the sender's picture :) !!(the same with missed calls)
-When you watch a video the tags "back" "options" etc. , disappear and also there is a progress line that shows you the video status ...
When you watch a video and then the phone rings (or a note in calendar) the player playback automaticaly pause the video so you can continue after the call ...In 6233, in that case the video start again from the begining !
Also, when you watch a video you can go in the menu and wherever you want while the video continues in the backround :) !!

There are a lot changes that i can't recall now ...


Regarding the phone and build quality i can say : robust !!
Slide mechanism is steady enough to forget 6288 and N95 :D !
Oh, yeah, 5610's slide is so strong and nice :rotate: !
The screen is bright and i can say that i didn't expect a lot because of light sensor ...The screen is gooood !!
The numerical keypad is veeeery (believe me) comfortable though the d-pad need a little bit exercise (not too much, a few hours) !
Soft keys are also comfortable ...

The sound through loudspeaker is very loud (not like 6233:D), clear and crispy(miles ahead from 6233) !!
The headphones is that good to drop EP-630 :D !Beside 6233, 5610 is also mileees away !!!
With EP-630 the music is just a pleasure :cool: !

Regarding the camera i can say that it's better compared to my brother's N73 !!

That dual-led is damn good !Also, macro mode is so nice !
I'll post pics later :) !
I don't check video quality but you know, it's Nokia !

And the phone is sooo beautiful :love: !!!!!

All questions are welcome !!


Varsamakos

[sms]

Congratulations on your purchase Varsa! if you could steal your brother's N73 and do some comparison pictures taken by both cameras it would be nice! :D

[varsamakos]

Thanks sms !!

I was thinking the same thing :D !!

Be sure that i will take comparison shots ;) !

[Mweb]

Nice buy Varsamakos, great phone and looking forward to your thoughts. :D

[varsamakos]

mweb6161, Yeah, very nice buy :) !


Here you are :) :

Cloudy weather :
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=013er7.jpg

Macro shots :
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=023wx8.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=019ll4.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=016sa0.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=015bg4.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=014bj8.jpg

Flash-shots :
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=025gz0.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=005rm1.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=001ji2.jpg


Indoor shot :
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=010sk3.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=012py7.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=017ra5.jpg





Also,in a message, when you press "send", there is another option (favorite) where you can add one number that you use most :) !

What a niiiice phone :cool: !

Oh God, I can die happy now (Walter - Jeff Dunham) :lol: :D !!



Stay tuned for some N73 vs 5610 shots :) !

[Wilbur]

varsamakos, thanks for pics & info. Waiting for comparison with n73 and some more outdoor pics when the weather is better there.

[varsamakos]

Ok, i'll do that :) ...

[9mmpistol]

Is there an option to use the camera LED as a torche?

[2kewl]

Thanx a lot, varsamakos! Definitely my next phone :)

[@@]

Nice buy Varsa ;) From what I can see the cam is similar to the ones in 7390 or 6500.Thats good for a music phone

[sms]

From what I can see the cam is similar to the ones in 7390 or 6500.Thats good for a music phone

yeah, I see that too, I doubt it will be better than the N73's camera, but let's wait for varsa's comparison.

[@@]

yeah, I see that too, I doubt it will be better than the N73's camera, but let's wait for varsa's comparison.
That cam module sometimes takes better pics in daylight.The only problem will be noise in lowlight pics and from what I remember the 7390 cam used flash very often indoor to avoid noise and most of the time when flash wasnt needed.In those cases N73 is better :D

[varsamakos]

9mmpistol, no there is no such option ...

2kewl, you're welcome !

@@, you are right ;) !!

All i can say is that 5610 has a very good camera-flash for a music phone, you know, see around ;) !

Here is the comparison (N73 ME) ...
Indoor pictures with or without flash (when i can do that, i'll take outdoor shots with Mr.Sun available :) ) ...

Let's go :) :
(Νο 6 & 10 is pics in zero light, where flash is the boss:))

N73 : http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=037na5.jpg
5610 :http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=022ni4.jpg

N73 :http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=040my7.jpg
5610 :http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=024sc0.jpg

N73 :http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=041kx2.jpg
5610 :http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=026tf2.jpg

N73 :http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=043os4.jpg
5610 :http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=027mj4.jpg

N73 :http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=044up2.jpg
5610 :http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=028sc0.jpg

N73 :http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=046rg2.jpg
5610 :http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=029kd1.jpg

N73 :http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=047so8.jpg
5610 :http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=031xb5.jpg

N73 :http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=048sb4.jpg
5610 :http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=032oe2.jpg

N73 :http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=049zl7.jpg
5610 :http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=033qj0.jpg

N73 :http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=050oy9.jpg
5610 :http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=034sh9.jpg

N73 :http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=053xd2.jpg
5610 :http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=035mj2.jpg

[@@]

varsamakos
Thanks for the pics.They just confirms my theory about the 5610.The noise reduction in the N73 is horrible but the 5610 has much noise and much sharpening :D

[varsamakos]

@@, Ι still prefer my 5610 :D !

In macro and dark -with flash- shots 5610 performs great but noise is something that you can't avoid ;) ...

[@@]

varsamakos
Yeah I agree.I prefer noise in the 5610 pics than over noise reduction like the N73 pics

[samuelby]

varsamakos

thanks for sharing ur experience w/ 5610..:jump:
by the way, what's the highest video resolution does 5610 take?
and how's the battery life compared to 6233?
is it worth upgrading ur 6233 to this?
i also have 6233 but i already sold it becoz i also want to buy this, but its not yet available here in the philippines, i'm in a dilemma between this & the 5310..
i really need a new phone, but if 5610 still not availble, i might go for the 5310..

[a2k24]

http://wavetelmobiles.com/showmobile.php?id=NOKIA%20N5610

must say thats an excellent launch price. converts to 336 US $!
looks like we have a winner.

[athos1111]

varsamakos, thanx for the pix! But as the occasion presents itself do take some outdoor pix..

[varsamakos]

You're welcome guys :) !

athos1111, i know but as i said Mr.Sun is not available these days :) ..
I'll do my best ...

a2k24, you mean, it's shipping for 336 $ :insane: ?

samuelby, of course it's worth updating, that's for sure !
Video is VGA at 15 fps (i didn't test it until now :-/) ...Well, there are people saying that is more than 15 fps :spy: ...
Regarding battery life, i can't say ...you know - two days phone !
I'll be able to anwser the question about battery life compared to 6233 later :) ...

[2kewl]

It seems it'll be available here in India at 14K (about 350 USD) :rotate: :jump:

Waiting for it to hit stores!

[Rahvin]

how's the gaming?
and how's the jbenchmark 1 or 2?

[a2k24]

you mean, it's shipping for 336 $ ?
mean to say its street price is that much.
a bit hasty to get yours weren't ya ? ;)

[varsamakos]

Not hasty , it was a pleasure to buy it now ;) !

[Xiztance]

I Finally got my 5610!!!:lol:
And i think i'm in:love:
Before anything else, this phone is really a " bang for the buck" as they say.

This phone, in my opinion, is better than "MOST" Nseries mobiles.
There is nothing that is cellphone lacks,except using something other than plastic in its build, including a Wifi feature and a Carl Zeiss lens too would be nice.
Slider mechanism is smooth and firm.

Pros: High quality screen, 3.2 MP Camera,Loud, probably as loud as N73 but sound is crisper and better quality due to a dedicated audio chip.Slider-feature(under screen) is a unique addition by Nokia nd is VERY USEFUL and fast (no lagging, Because of the S40 which is a VERY stable OS).
The screen is SCRATCHPROOF as well as the back, If you dont belive me check the datasheet for the 5610!!!!

Cons: Its a Fingerprint magnet, Feels a BIT cheap, although sides are made out of anodised aluminium, the volume buttons on the side are a bit hard to press, no lens protection.

I just have one issue and i would like varsamakos to confirm if he has the smae problem on his cellphone.
When i try answering a call using the slide function i get a delay of about 3 secs before the call is actually answered.Do you have the same prob, or is it a hardware malfunction and i should return it for another one?:confused:


And i agree with versamakos, It's really a privilege to own it now!! :super::D

[varsamakos]

Good buy my friend ;) !

I know about the delay that you are talking about, it's about 1.5 second in my 5610 ...No problem :) ...

Regarding volume button I can say that it's not that difficult to press, I think it's Ok-ish ...
Yeah, it is fingerprint magnet (I notice that in cases of strong light) but i like the way it looks, you know, that flat glass , it looks nice ...

[Xiztance]

I hope they do fix that delay in their next firmware update.

Yeah, the flat design look awesome, kinda resembles the N81 if you're standg a few metres away from the mobile, thats if you have the blue edition which is black all over the front with the slide closed :D.

And by the way, the video is VGA quality at 30 fps.Wish the phone has stereo speakers :(

My ringing tone is aways heard as ascending although i have set it to a ringing setting, i heard they are doing this to new phones( beginning 2007), because people complained it shocks them when the phone starts ringing loudly(I dunno why, But i think thats how mobile phones should be, no one wants a missed call,IMO)

I dunno if you can do this with S60 phones, but on the 5610( S40) you can customize the shortcut bar at the top.This means you can organise, delete, add and remove different applications or functions such as calculator or alarma clock :D.

[samuelby]

Xiztance

are u sure it captures VGA 30 pfs? and in what format?
5610 is still not available here in manila, i looked everywhere in the mall yesterday.. i might go for the 5310 instead..

by the way, what did u get(accessories) in the retail box?:)

[Xiztance]

Xiztance

are u sure it captures VGA 30 pfs? and in what format?
5610 is still not available here in manila, i looked everywhere in the mall yesterday.. i might go for the 5310 instead..

by the way, what did u get(accessories) in the retail box?:)

Yeah, it captures 30 fps at 640x480 resolution i guess, which is pretty good, and the video calling is in 15 fps to all who mixed up between the 2 cams.
Here's the datasheet it answers all your questions ... Enjoy :D

http://www.nokia.de/NOKIA_GERMANY_9/About_Nokia/Press/Press_Kit/070928_go_play/pdfs/datasheetnokia5610xpressmusic.pdf

And you get either the 1GB or 512 MB microSD card depending on your country. ;)
And about the battery, i bought this phone on 11/11 and i can say that i charged it only once during this week(based on this:~10 sms/day,~2 hr calls/day,music~1.5 hr/day<<<<I dont listen to music on the phone much, i have an ipod!! :D, i bought the 5610 for its features ,looks and its darn cheap :cool:)

And i want someone to confirm the last info on the datasheet under the connectivity title they says it has a 2.5mm "AV"
Is that the AV that you use to connect to a tv?

[varsamakos]

As we all (s40 users) know, in s40 when you change a theme unfortunately
ringtone, message tone and alarm tone automatically change :( !!

No more guys ! There is no such a problem in 5610 !!:)

Also I must say that you can search through galery (i.e. in video,pics,sound folder)
just by pressing numerical keypad ...
That's very helpful !
This is my favourite change in 5th edition :rotate: (also in XP-Vista change ;)) ...

[samuelby]

wow! thats a good news! thanks for that info varsamakos!
that's is one of the things that i dont like bout the 6233, and also the very simple music player.. do u think 5310 will also have those changes?

by the way, according to Xiztance, 5610 takes VGA 30pfs video? i just want to confirm..:)

[varsamakos]

I guess that 5310 will also have those changes ...

Is there a program that I can see how many frames it records ?

Show me how and I'll confirm that ;) !


Edit :
samuelby
When you'll buy 5310 or 5610 you're gonna see those changes !
I can find another one and another one every day :rotate:, you'll see ;) !

[Xiztance]

^^^Yeah, what varsamakos said is true, everyday i find different changes and everytime i used the phone i find something new.

Guys, i just showed you the official datahseet, it clearly states under the camera title that it records video in VGA at 30 fps, no need to confirm that, unless you don't trust Nokia :p.

[samuelby]

haha!:D thanks xiztance, yeah, nokia's spec sheets are sometimes inaccurate.. like what from i read that 5610 runs on S40 3rd edition w/c is totally false.
and on the video resolution, is it smooth? like the n95? or choppy like those on 6233 & 6280?
anyway,i think im going for 5310 now...:D

[Xiztance]

^^ Really?? I didn't notice the mistake, well to hell with nokia, hope its allowed to say that :D
I didn't check hows the video on the n95, so i can't really judge, but the video works for me, sorry.
Unfortunately you can't use the front cam for anything except for video calls, would be better if you could have taken portrait pics :D, never mind the quality .... :P
Well this might prove that i dont have an AV connection since the datasheet is inaccurate, Dammit .. Hehe.
Samuelby, why dont you wait for the 5610, it has better features and looks, or is it the price thats holdin' you off?

[varsamakos]

This is my 5610 :D :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z1VWjMPfSyk

Sorry for the quality, it's not me,it's 6233 :) !

[samuelby]

varsamakos, that's a nice vid and i find it funny coz u did not talk too much!:D

Xiztance, i really like the 5610 but unfortunately, its not yet available here and i'm sure when it launched here it will be xpensive! i cant stretch my budget anymore.. for the meantime i will just get its little sibling the 5310 w/c only costs 266 USD.:)

[varsamakos]

varsamakos, that's a nice vid and i find it funny coz u did not talk too much!:D


Shy boy :D

[Xiztance]

Varsamakos, I like your accent, wait till you hear my aussie one. ;)

[radiologist1234]

At last 5610 in India.... on 22rd nov
13,500 INR = 343 USD:jump::jump::jump:

[varsamakos]

Varsamakos, I like your accent, wait till you hear my aussie one. ;)

I'm waiting ...Wanna hear your accent ;) !

[2kewl]

At last 5610 in India.... on 22rd nov
13,500 INR = 343 USD

Yeah, What a launch price! Me definitely buying it :jump::rotate:

[TechFreak]

How is the loudspeaker of the 5610 Xpress Music compared to the loudspeaker of the 6500 Slide, in terms of bass and sound clarity?

[Xiztance]

How is the loudspeaker of the 5610 Xpress Music compared to the loudspeaker of the 6500 Slide, in terms of bass and sound clarity?

There is not a single difference that i can see in hardware between both phones, even the location of the flash, loudspeaker, microusb ... etc are all the same, the only difference is the material they're made of. According to that i can expect both phones to behave the same way, the loudspeaker is very clear at maximum volume, no worries, but i dont think we'll see bass-enabled loudspeakers in mobile phones until at least next year, cheers!!

5610 = plastic front/back - anodised aluminium sides :D
6500s = Stainless stell all over except the top and bottom.

Hope i helped ya mate :D.

[TechFreak]

There is not a single difference that i can see in hardware between both phones, even the location of the flash, loudspeaker, microusb ... etc are all the same, the only difference is the material they're made of. According to that i can expect both phones to behave the same way, the loudspeaker is very clear at maximum volume, no worries, but i dont think we'll see bass-enabled loudspeakers in mobile phones until at least next year, cheers!!

5610 = plastic front/back - anodised aluminium sides :D
6500s = Stainless stell all over except the top and bottom.

Hope i helped ya mate :D.

Thanks for the information! You definitely helped me by answering my question! I have always been wondering about the differences between the 5610 Xpress Music and the 6500 Slide.

I need to know another thing. What is the frame rate of the video recording? Some people say 15 FPS and some say 30 FPS.

[varsamakos]

I need to know another thing. What is the frame rate of the video recording? Some people say 15 FPS and some say 30 FPS.

I'm also confused :insane: !

[Xiztance]

LOL!!!!!
Same here!! :P
But it works like great, works for me but i dont know how it will look to you.
The datasheet seems inaccurate, so i cant say anything untill i HEAR it from a nokia dealer :D

[Ruhul]

Ok, guys why not check it via your pc. Just convert it to mpeg (dat) format. Now move your cursor to the file. It will show you it's resulation and frame rate.

[chlettn]

Or just use Quicktime or better VLC (anybody should use that, anyway ;)) - both have in-built video analysing functions (resolution, bitrate, framerate, codec etc...)

Ruhul, converting a video file to extract information about the original file is quite probably the worst way to do it ;)

[Xiztance]

Sure, i'll start right into it :D
Ill post the reults tomorrow.

Cheers.

[Xiztance]

I didn't exactly know how to check for the framrate in vlc, what i did was i recorded a 26 second clip, and found the total number of frames using quicktime which was 394 total frames.
The math is simple and you get a 15.15 fps, not sure if this method is accurate, but it i am conviced its a VGA cam recording 15 fps at 640x480 resolution.

Although i am concerned about a thing, when playing the video on the 5610 it runs smooth, but on my pc its looks like a slide show sometihng like 1 frame per sec, unless i run the video on a smaller resolution that i can get decent fps.
Do you have the same problem, Varsamakos?
I am open to anyone's opnion on the matter, i am darn pissed!!!!!

[varsamakos]

Xiztance, I don't have this problem my friend :( !
Playing the video with Media Player Classic ...

[silverwolf0]

I don't have my 5610 with me right now but contrary to Xizstance's initial unfounded claim of 30fps for the video recording, the framerate is actually 14.8fps for BOTH VGA and QVGA recordings, which is more in line with the roundabout number calculated several posts above. You can easily see the framerate by using media player classic and looking at the properties. At either VGA or QVGA setting at the highest quality, the video can be clearly seen as only half the ideal framerate, either on the handset or on a PC, so it is not silky smooth but quite acceptable, along the lines of Youtube. From what I remember of the 6233, although the settings and capabilities are almost identical to it, the 5610 has less artifacting and an overall better and smoother video. I have noticed much less of the screen tearing issue where the previous image stays for a portion of a second when you move and the video suddenly jumps over to the next image after moving too quickly.

[Xiztance]

Lol, sorry peeps, but i found out what has gone wrong, i was connecting the mobile to my main pc, and then used my laptop as a remote desktop connection.In other words, i was "streaming" it through a wireless connection onto my laptop :D,
Well 14.8,15 and 15.15 fps dont make a difference.

Silverwolf0 I assumed it was 30 fps because that was stated in the mobile's datasheet from nokia, but someone corrected my finding and i believe that the datasheet is not totally accurate.

[sms]

Silverwolf0 I assumed it was 30 fps because that was stated in the mobile's datasheet from nokia, but someone corrected my finding and i believe that the datasheet is not totally accurate.

there was nothing wrong in the datasheets or the the phone's page in nokia site, all what was mentioned is that it can PLAY video's in VGA 30fps, and RECORD in VGA 15fps, the misunderstanding originate from the wishful thinking of the fans of that phone, only S60 smartphones with OMAP strong chips is capable of VGA 30fps currently from nokia.

[Xiztance]

Then how do you explain when they say that the 5610 is running on a S40 3rd edition while it actually runs on s40 5th edition??? :S

[sms]

Xiztance, oh sorry, what I meant was that there was nothing wrong with the datasheets in regard to the video recording and playback's frame rate, the "3rd ed" thing is wrong.

[Karim]

This phone, in my opinion, is better than "MOST" Nseries mobiles.
I'm glad you're loving your new 5610, and it's a great device, but let's not get carried away :)

[Ruhul]

Guys, 1) hows the loudspeaker compared to w850?
2) hows the supplied headset quality ?
3)is it better than w610 with same headphone?

[DevilsRejection]

someone buy Ruhul some decent headphones. he is terribly anal about the ones that come in the box when in reality they are all 5 dollar crummy made in China headsets.

[varsamakos]

I have Creative EP-630 and as far as I can judge, the quality is great !!

[Xiztance]

Nothing beats Sony's "in-ear' headphones, bass and quality are superb, thats if you can afford it!!!! :D:D
Got mine as a birthday gift:cool:
But i dont use 'em with phones, they're too precious to do so :P, iPod all the way to go!!

[silverwolf0]

Its best for someone who owns the phone to confirm a spec directly and not through a datasheet or manual. I am waiting for a new 5610 to be shipped to me. Hopefully it will fix all my gripes with the one I originally got. However, I don't think it can fix all the problems and I plan to give it a scathing review when it comes back to me. :eek:

[azzkkr]

anyone bought the phone in india? when i enquired they said it has 512mb card... but were not too sure about the headphone remote or 3.5mm adaptor!

[Xiztance]

It comes with a remote, and a 2.5mm to 3.5mm mm adapter.
The phone actually has the 2.5mm jack.
The remote has only one button, so iam not sure what it does, i reckon ita a pause button.

[Karim]

Pause & answer/endcall button.

[enerlevel]

just a little price update , 5610 is for 333$

[TechFreak]

Nothing beats Sony's "in-ear' headphones, bass and quality are superb, thats if you can afford it!!!! :D:D
Got mine as a birthday gift:cool:
But i dont use 'em with phones, they're too precious to do so :P, iPod all the way to go!!

I believe that the iPod's sound quality is only average from reviews that I have seen though. Sony and Creative MP3 players give better sound quality, so you can use the full potential of your earphone. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[knights]

I believe that the iPod's sound quality is only average from reviews that I have seen though. Sony and Creative MP3 players give better sound quality, so you can use the full potential of your earphone. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ipod is only popular because of its "apple" logo, + itunes + more accesories... speaking about (music) playback quality, they are worse compared to creative, sony, cowon, mpio, samsung and even zune...IMO


back to topic; i had a chance to play with it just this afternoon at nokia care center... the slider key is well implemented, UI transistions is also good... keys is one of the best... screen is somewhat dim, comparable to 6500slide... sliding mechanism is great...

[enerlevel]

ipod is loud.... when i connect it to my gym stereo, i turns out to be pretty loud for everyone to atleast hear. i dunno about other standalone players since i have not used anyother.. but for cell phones , i can comment that none of them are that loud specially the Eseries and the Nseries (xcept n91). U can hardly hear anything coming out from them.

[Xiztance]

People, you all misunderstood what i have said, read what i wrote again, i never said the ipod is one of the best quality mp3s, i was talking about my earphones, thet're stunning :D. And i agree that with a sony or creative mp3 i'll get more out of my earphones, but i am happy with my ipod, so its not a problem, i am happy with the quality i am getting :D

Back to topic, i noticed that sometimes(about once every 10 times) you start up the camera it lags a bit when focusing and taking a picture, it will be better if you restart the camera. when that happens. ;)

[TechFreak]

People, you all misunderstood what i have said, read what i wrote again, i never said the ipod is one of the best quality mp3s, i was talking about my earphones, thet're stunning :D. And i agree that with a sony or creative mp3 i'll get more out of my earphones, but i am happy with my ipod, so its not a problem, i am happy with the quality i am getting :D

Back to topic, i noticed that sometimes(about once every 10 times) you start up the camera it lags a bit when focusing and taking a picture, it will be better if you restart the camera. when that happens. ;)

Well, good for you if you are happy.:D

Back on topic again: I'm disappointed that the fps of the video recording on the 5610 Xpress Music is 15 fps. I would rather have QVGA at 30 fps rather than VGA at 15 fps. That is how important frame rate is to me. However, only the chip in the N series can handle 30 fps. That doesn't stop me from buying this phone though.

[calle909]

You do know you can lower the resolution for higher FPS, do you?

[TechFreak]

You do know you can lower the resolution for higher FPS, do you?

Oh really?

I don't have my 5610 with me right now but contrary to Xizstance's initial unfounded claim of 30fps for the video recording, the framerate is actually 14.8fps for BOTH VGA and QVGA recordings, which is more in line with the roundabout number calculated several posts above. You can easily see the framerate by using media player classic and looking at the properties. At either VGA or QVGA setting at the highest quality, the video can be clearly seen as only half the ideal framerate, either on the handset or on a PC, so it is not silky smooth but quite acceptable, along the lines of Youtube. From what I remember of the 6233, although the settings and capabilities are almost identical to it, the 5610 has less artifacting and an overall better and smoother video. I have noticed much less of the screen tearing issue where the previous image stays for a portion of a second when you move and the video suddenly jumps over to the next image after moving too quickly.

[calle909]

Yeah for Qvga its 15fps yes, but i don't remember if it was CIF or QCIF that had 30fps..... Maybe that's too low resolution to bother about the fps...

[TechFreak]

Yeah for Qvga its 15fps yes, but i don't remember if it was CIF or QCIF that had 30fps..... Maybe that's too low resolution to bother about the fps...

Definitely QCIF. QVGA is 320 x 240 pixels and CIF is 352 x 288 pixels which are similar, so Nokia wouldn't put those two together.

[Itachi]

Does this have the dedicated music chip?

[TechFreak]

Does this have the dedicated music chip?

Nokia says yes:
Crystal clear sound, and music playback up to 22 hours, enabled with a dedicated audio chip

http://europe.nokia.com/A4515074

[Itachi]

So just to clarify whats the max res for video capture?

And how would the sound quality of this compare with the N81? I like the specs of this phone but whats the media management like for scanning through albums? How does it compare with the W960?

[pierewiet]

i've also become a proud owner of this cellar phone since friday.. :)
what i can say about the sound part of the phone:
the sound itself is AWESOME, really.. i'm coming from a W810i and the difference is enormous with the same quality earphones.
One thing i don't like so much, when compared to my w810i, is that when i click an artist, i have to chose an album, the option "all albums" to then scroll through any track of the desired artist is not (yet?) available. I didn't have to do anything really than put my songs on the stick (which was a 1 gb in belgium btw) through PC suite, which runs pretty instinctively.

As i said, the sound quality is really really great, i love the interface and the colouring(!) of the incredible 16m colour screen, as well as the slider function.

That having said i still didn't talk about the biggest pro for me, which is the actual body of the phone itself. It's amazing. I've never had such a nice looking phone in my hands before..

The only bad parts i can come up with are the artist->all numbers browsing and the missing torch option, but these are two things that can be softwarematically fixed :)

i think it's actually pretty strange there aren't a lot of reviews out there yet, since i think this really is the phone of the moment, quality, specs and price-wize.. (and yes, before i bought this phone i did a huge investigation through any phone on earth, as i usually do when i'm buying something)

any questions, shoot :p

[Itachi]

pierewiet whats the max res for video recording?

Also can someone please anwer the following questions.

Whats the web browsing like compared to the N95, is web 2 meaning the same type ect...?

Whats the audio quality like compared to the W960? N81?

[TechFreak]

pierewiet whats the max res for video recording?

Also can someone please anwer the following questions.

Whats the web browsing like compared to the N95, is web 2 meaning the same type ect...?

Whats the audio quality like compared to the W960? N81?

The max video record resolution is VGA (or 640 x 480 pixels).

[Itachi]

And hows does the audio quality compare to the N81? w960? Looks like a nice phone. Shame its s40

[TechFreak]

And hows does the audio quality compare to the N81? w960? Looks like a nice phone. Shame its s40

We'll need people to compare it with N81 and W960i.

[Itachi]

But the N81 doesnt have the dedicated chip buit in right? I think ill need to listen with one of these myself as quite frankly i see some people raving about how superior it is to SE walkman and others saying they cant even notice a difference.

Also being a S40 device will this be able to play all the H263 encoded 3GP and MP4 videos?

[TechFreak]

But the N81 doesnt have the dedicated chip buit in right? I think ill need to listen with one of these myself as quite frankly i see some people raving about how superior it is to SE walkman and others saying they cant even notice a difference.

Also being a S40 device will this be able to play all the H263 encoded 3GP and MP4 videos?
No, the N81 doesn't have a dedicated audio chip. A lousy dedicated audio chip isn't going to work anyway. Yup, it's better to listen to it yourself.

Yup, you can:
Playback for the following video formats: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4
http://www.nokia.com.sg/A4632130

[Itachi]

Yikes this is getting tricky. Im now seriously tempted by this phone but the fact thats its so cheap says somethingto me like it doesnt belong in the class of the w960 range. I know is silly but ive always been a firm believer of quality comes with price.

Has the 5610 just come out? When will we see a dedicated review?

[Xiztance]

Yikes this is getting tricky. Im now seriously tempted by this phone but the fact thats its so cheap says somethingto me like it doesnt belong in the class of the w960 range. I know is silly but ive always been a firm believer of quality comes with price.

Has the 5610 just come out? When will we see a dedicated review?

I too believe that quality comes with price.But from what i see, i think what makes this phone cheaper than other phones with the same features is its PLASTIC build quality.
It really shows when you compare the 6500 slide with the 5610, same everything except its build cover, and compare the price difference, about ~AU$100? I think they did that becuase the phone is aimed at the youth age group so that they can afford it. :D

Read through the thread and you'll see several user reviews including mine.They help because they show you the bad parts of the mobile, unlike other sites which emphasize the pros part more thann the cons part.
Just wait for a few more weeks(if you can) for a decent review by mobile-review, pesonally i trust only their reviews because they are honest and give you loads of images and criticizing in a good way.

[Itachi]

Im now so sck of trying to decide I think im just going to go out and get the N95 8gb. lol

[Xiztance]

^^I'll give you a place to live when you're out of cash :D^^

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Jo]

bavlondon go go its the best phone on the world :)

[knights]

Im now so sck of trying to decide I think im just going to go out and get the N95 8gb

it would be better if you try both phones before buying... i think you dont need s60, try series40... maybe you'll prefer 5610's sound quality... no question about camera, n95 is better.but 5610 isnt worse also; almost same as n73 or better... if you need those extra stuff on n95, like GPS, standard headphone jack and etc...then i knw you know what to pick...

[love murder]

dose 5610 have 3.5mm jack?TV.out?

[varsamakos]

2.5 mm jack ...

no TV-out :-/ !

[love murder]

now i'm confused
which one is better 6500 slide or 5610?
overall

[koЯngear]

Knights, how about the audio quality of 5610 compared to N91? I mean is the difference too big???
I just want to have one as well as with my N91.
PS: Do you not miss the N91 sound knites?

[shiznitz]

Hey guys,

Does the 5610 keypad show any signs of scratching after you open/close the slide many times?

I ask because people in the 6500 Slide thread are complaining that this scratching happens to their phones pretty easily (and often).

Since the 5610 and 6500S share the same general specs, I'm concerned that they might share the same scratching issue...?

[pierewiet]

no scratching at all, the gap between upper and lower body at the height of the buttons is OK.

[Xiztance]

love murder,It all comes down to your taste, if you like the "classier, business" build and the stainless steel go for the 6500 slide.
If you prefer the "sporty,edgy"design go for the 5610.
Unless you need the TV-out then go for the 6500S.

Nothin' to compare between these 2 phones spec-wise, its just about your taste :D
And there is no scratching whatsoever on the keypad, distance of slider from keypad is v. good. And by the way, the mobile's front feels greasy after a while if your hand is oily, unless you like wiping your phone every 1-2 mins :P

[knights]

Knights, how about the audio quality of 5610 compared to N91? I mean is the difference too big???
I just want to have one as well as with my N91.
PS: Do you not miss the N91 sound knites?

about n91, i still have it.... i didnt get a chance to try 5610's sound quality, i cant comment...

[Karim]

5610 is very similar if not equal to 5310.

[knights]

5610 is very similar if not equal to 5310.

guessing or you've really tried it?

[enerlevel]

speaker wise there is a big difference between 5610 and 5310. but headphone wise they are the same. n91 is almost 20% more volume then 5310. i have both and am testing them right now

[The Q]

Does the 5610 have the same keypad scratch problems like the 6500 slide?

Cheers

[Xiztance]

^^ Read through the thread before askin' questions which were already answered :D. Take a look at post #239 for an answer to your question.

[pierewiet]

could someone check for me if he's got the same with his phone please:

when i slide my phone open, and grab the lower side of the upper part, i can move it a bit to the left and right, so it is a bit loose; normal, not normal or "not normal but accepted anyway"? :)

[Xiztance]

^^ Don't try to do that much, you'll make it looser than it already is. But that's normal, sliders will eventually get loose, but the way you described it, i think that it's normal with respect to the 5610 and its alright i have the same thing.
I notice it mainly when iam texting ;)

[bokanila]

someone who already owns the phone: can you upload a sample of video recording with the 5610 at best resolution? 1 minute maximum in normal lighting conditions.

Thank you

[Vincis]

someone who already owns the phone: can you upload a sample of video recording with the 5610 at best resolution? 1 minute maximum in normal lighting conditions.

Thank you

I totally agree with you.... :)

[azzkkr]

guys who own the phone, can u pl tell me if the camera flash can be used as a flashlight or torch? and if so how user friendly is it?