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varsamakos
01-12-2007, 13:55
guys who own the phone, can u pl tell me if the camera flash can be used as a flashlight or torch?

NO :-/ ...

Ruhul
02-12-2007, 17:24
When nokia will learn the proper use of flash?

9mmpistol
02-12-2007, 19:01
When we start complaining enough.

koRngear
02-12-2007, 19:36
NO :-/ ...
Think there is a freeware for it.

varsamakos
02-12-2007, 21:20
Think there is a freeware for it.

I don't think so ...

9mmpistol
02-12-2007, 22:55
Surely not on a S40 phone?

Xiztance
04-12-2007, 12:49
I don't know, but aren't Nokia going to release any firmware updates?
As far as i know it's still 4.20, is there any new update that i odn't know of??

Ruhul
04-12-2007, 16:03
Today i plugged a imobile's headset to my 3110 classic. Audio quality is absulately gorgeous.

Awesome_Aleks
04-12-2007, 21:21
Today i plugged a imobile's headset to my 3110 classic. Audio quality is absulately gorgeous.

the 5610 & 5310 would be even better :)

ipognahtan
06-12-2007, 08:40
Hi can anyone who is actually using 5610 phone can clear up some basic questions.
From the posts I have read the music in both 5310 and 5610 seems to be almost same when heard through headphones but is the sound through Loudspeaker that low in 5310(even low than the W700i). Hope 5610 is loud enough. I am really not bothered about camera, a 2 MP camera will be enough for me. I trying to figure out which will be good for me 5310/5610/5700.
Can somebody comment on this.

bokanila
06-12-2007, 08:58
I bought the phone yesterday and here are some things:
- the display and front attract fingerprints very easy; u can see them especially around the d-pad and around the music switch
- camera is awesome, comparing to my N80 (autofocus does its job really good)
- flash is a big improvement comparing to the same N80
- applications (widsets, opera mini, gmail) start fast and download data pretty fast (it is a 3G phone after all); yet, I didn't manage to upgrade Opera to version 4.0
- IM application supports Yahoo Messenger - this is a very nice feature
- music sounds good (at the biggest volume, it distorts a bit but it's not annoying)
- with the speakers, no bass (sadly) - I had a Motorola e398 and nothing can compare with the bass emulated by that phone )through some hardware vibrations)
- comparing to my former 5300, the UI has some improvements, yet the software response to your requests gets a little bit slowed down (more features and graphical effects = lagginess)
- the video playback quality is incredible; I have to say it is next to what you can play with an S60 phone
- the message editor is changed - unifies all messages types (SMS, MMS, etc.)
- Nokia finally introduced the option of closing the music player once you're done with it (press the red key for a couple of seconds) - nice feature
- I fell in love with the keypad - soft, very responsive, no noise when you press it (except the option keys)
- the materials used to build this phone are ok (no "cheap" feeling) - it is getting attention everywhere you will go
- i created a 53 seconds movie at 640x480 (takes 11 MB), will post a link later


I will come back with more details after I will discover them ;)

inexsis
06-12-2007, 16:59
can anyone teach me how to test the 5610 front camera without making any video call ? or is it can only can be used when making a video call ? most of 3g phone that have front camera, we can test the camera/ turn it on without making any video call.
please anyone ?

Robot
06-12-2007, 17:19
inexsis
in S60 phones or in SE phones you can but I don't think you can do it in Nokia s40 phones.

varsamakos
06-12-2007, 18:32
inexsis, robot is right ...
You can't use the front camera except video calls ...

Freger
08-12-2007, 23:43
How is the sound quality when compared to N81 ? Or Walkmen series ?

Razer
09-12-2007, 05:43
can anyone teach me how to test the 5610 front camera without making any video call ? or is it can only can be used when making a video call ? most of 3g phone that have front camera, we can test the camera/ turn it on without making any video call.
please anyone ?
Thats one thing that I hate about s40.You cant use the front cam other than for video call.

2kewl
11-12-2007, 09:41
Guys, Is it possible to tune in to the radio using EP-630 in this?

ankur8485
11-12-2007, 09:50
Hi,
I am interested in buying this mobile hence I started searching for 5610's reviews on net and came across this thread. I have read all the pages of this thread.

I wanna ask one question -
I want to buy this Nokia 5610 Express Music Edition along with 4GB Memory Card. Could anyone tell me whether this will be fine or the 4GB card will slow down the processing?
There must be be some of u who would have bought this phone with a 4GB card. Tell me whether its working the same or the processing has slowed down ....
:)

inexsis
11-12-2007, 12:38
thanks robot n varsamakos

varsamakos
11-12-2007, 13:45
There must be be some of u who would have bought this phone with a 4GB card. Tell me whether its working the same or the processing has slowed down ....
:)

I bought it with 4gb card :) !
It's working the same but i have only 1gb in my card , until now, nothing is wrong :) !

inexsis, you're welcome !

@@
11-12-2007, 15:05
varsamakos
Do you experience some slight slow down in the music player at times?

varsamakos
11-12-2007, 15:38
varsamakos
Do you experience some slight slow down in the music player at times?

Its like the first day @@ ...

Just a little when I access in memory card , you know , about 0.5 - 1 second ...

@@
11-12-2007, 15:59
Its like the first day @@ ...

Just a little when I access in memory card , you know , about 0.5 - 1 second ...
Ok thanks.The cam in the phone is really great.Sound quality is very good

varsamakos
11-12-2007, 16:09
Did you have the 5610 :) ?

How is its slide ?

enerlevel
11-12-2007, 16:37
the difference between 6500 slide and 5610 is just $50 here. i would recommend to get 6500 cause its exactly the same phone in a metal casing pluz afew goodies

@@
11-12-2007, 17:29
Did you have the 5610 ?

How is its slide ?
Yes I got my blue 5610 today.The slide is very good.Its way better than the one in N95 8gb.I prefer the 5610 to 6500s.I tried both

Aidan
11-12-2007, 18:11
@@, what are the bundled earphones, and how is the dual-led flash, compared to the se k750? thanks

varsamakos
11-12-2007, 18:16
There is a photo comparison in this thread (5610-N73)
where you can see the difference ...
I dont know compared to K750 ...

Headphones are the same as in 5310 ...
(AC-56)


Edit :
Its here
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showpost.php?p=631566&postcount=153

azzkkr
11-12-2007, 18:33
@varsamkos
does it charge over the usb? how r bundled headphones?

GHOST_Rider007
11-12-2007, 18:40
Headphones are the same as in 5310 ...
(AC-56)

how is speaker performance compared to 5310 & N-95 8 gb & 5700?

is there a great difference in audio quality from 5700 when it comes to earphones?

@@
11-12-2007, 19:15
@@, what are the bundled earphones, and how is the dual-led flash, compared to the se k750? thanks
I didnt even used the bundled earphones.Its just the standard ones used in 5310.For the Led flash, its simply great.its too powerful for close ups.It should be use for subjects above 30cm.Pics of about 1m from subject with 5610 is very good.Since pics speaks more than words here are some eg

30cm from subject:

K750
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7131/dsc00054oe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

5610
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4044/image002vr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

About 50cm:

K750(Didnt focus well)
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7384/dsc00053us1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

5610
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9426/image001ta3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

About 1m:

K750
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5673/dsc00055bo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

5610: (even in full size this pic is great)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5966/image003zr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I hope it helps :)

inexsis
12-12-2007, 10:21
one more thing i want to ask......
why my 5610 takes long time to restart(loading).
its like 1-2min........
why ??????
am i the only one experiencing this or everyone is ?

@@
12-12-2007, 11:47
one more thing i want to ask......
why my 5610 takes long time to restart(loading).
its like 1-2min........
why ??????
am i the only one experiencing this or everyone is ?
You mean your phone takes 1-2min to switch on??Mine takes about 13sec to load.Yours is faulty.Try to change it to another one

inexsis
12-12-2007, 11:56
i thought its always like that....
it takes mine about 20-30 sec to complete loading after i enter my sim password....
change it to another one ?
huh ?
i already used it nearly 2 month

@@
12-12-2007, 12:08
I dont use a sim password.It takes max 15sec to load completely for me.try to change the sim

varsamakos
12-12-2007, 13:48
@varsamkos
does it charge over the usb? how r bundled headphones?

Nope ...

Headphones are great imo ...
Compared to 6233's headphones, they are much better ...

how is speaker performance compared to 5310 & N-95 8 gb & 5700?

is there a great difference in audio quality from 5700 when it comes to earphones?

Sorry man but i dont have N95 8gb, 5700 or 5310 :-/ ... Just 6233 :) !
Loudspeaker performance compared to 6233 is great in terms of quality
but not that loud such as 6233 ...



@@, nice shots !

@@
12-12-2007, 15:25
how is speaker performance compared to 5310 & N-95 8 gb & 5700?

is there a great difference in audio quality from 5700 when it comes to earphones?
5700 and n95 8gb have stereo speakers and have more bass and clearer than the one speaker on 5610.5310 is very low in volume.Max volume of 5310 is about 60% of 5610.

In earphones, 5610 is better for sure.It has clear sound with decent bass and has a loud volume compared to the 5700 which also has a clear sound but with very weak bass and very low volume.5610 is definitely better than 5700 in earphones

@@, nice shots !
Thanks

knights
12-12-2007, 16:00
@@

hows the player speed? can it play videos (QVGA) @30fps? Battery Life? Max volume through headphone compared to n91? UI speed? Screen brightness?

@@
12-12-2007, 17:59
hows the player speed? can it play videos (QVGA) @30fps? Battery Life? Max volume through headphone compared to n91? UI speed? Screen brightness?
Music player speed is good and quite fast.Battery life is good but I got it only for 1 day and I charged my phone last night and my battery is still full now.Max volume is very good.Its of course lower in volume compared to N91 but still louder than N95 8gb I think.I compared them and its max volume is equal to 80% of the N91 volume which is very good.Its very loud even with my sony in ear earphones.But the N91 is extremely loud :D.It cant play QVGA 30fps.I was able to play QVGA 16-17fps smoothly.It can play 24fps but sometimes lags.UI speed is good but I think older S40 were slightly faster.Screen brightness is excellent.Even it has a sensor like the 7390, its much better than the 7390.Colours are well contrasted and images are sharp and it has a decent size.No complaints about the screen.

knights
12-12-2007, 23:23
@@

Thanks a lot.... i wonder why latest s40 cant barely play 30fps QVGA videos, while 6233 can play it well...

@@
13-12-2007, 00:24
Thanks a lot.... i wonder why latest s40 cant barely play 30fps QVGA videos, while 6233 can play it well...
Welcome but even my 6233 wasnt able to play QVGA 30fps.Quite weird.I tried 20fps videos at 500kps and it lagged on the 5610.It was the same thing.They are optimised to play 15fps.
Im still impressed between the big gap between 5700 and 5610 in terms of sound quality mainly bass and volume

PS:I tried again and QVGA 21fps is ok on the phone.

2kewl
13-12-2007, 16:49
Just got the phone..love the feel of it, awesome! will post a revu later.

Small info: How do I remove the 'No upcoming notes' and 'Search Web' from the main screen?

Also, How do I edit the bar containing shortcuts at the top?

Thx!

knights
13-12-2007, 17:10
Welcome but even my 6233 wasnt able to play QVGA 30fps

im using imtoo converter, 6233 can play 30fps videos well...

the lower part of the face of the phone is somewhat glossy, attracts fringerprints easily?

sms
13-12-2007, 17:27
Small info: How do I remove the 'No upcoming notes' and 'Search Web' from the main screen?

Also, How do I edit the bar containing shortcuts at the top?

menu>settings>display>active standby>personalize view

Ruhul
13-12-2007, 17:50
Sms, you brought the 5610?

varsamakos
13-12-2007, 18:09
The 5610 isn't the only phone with active standby screen ...

ICEman_c81
13-12-2007, 18:14
sms, if i still remember how it was on 5300, it can be done directly from idle screen... you just need to select "options" ;)

p.s. how is the music volume of 5610 compared to 5310?

@@
13-12-2007, 18:18
im using imtoo converter, 6233 can play 30fps videos well..
what bitrate and what codec do you use?

yes the lower part does attract fingerprint but its not that noticable.I dont find it annoying at all.The lower part comes with a plastic film on it whcih we should normally remove like the one of the screen.I left it on it and it protects well the glossy part

2kewl
13-12-2007, 18:19
Thanx sms!

milkmeister
13-12-2007, 20:22
Does anyone know if radio is built in or you have to use the earphones like in SE's. Glad for answers!

calle909
13-12-2007, 20:58
The radiomodule itself is built-in but it needs the headset/earphones cord as an antenna

@@
13-12-2007, 21:29
Does anyone know if radio is built in or you have to use the earphones like in SE's. Glad for answers!
You have to use earphones as antenna like in all phones

ICEman_c81
13-12-2007, 22:03
how is the music volume of 5610 compared to 5310?

does anyone know?

@@
13-12-2007, 22:36
does anyone know?
On speaker, 5610 is much more louder than 5310.In earphones I guess they should be similar but I havent tried the 5310 in earphones as the speaker on 5310 is too low

knights
14-12-2007, 02:27
In earphones I guess they should be similar but I havent tried the 5310 in earphones as the speaker on 5310 is too low

i guess so... 5310 is really loud, can even drive full size headphone...

2kewl
14-12-2007, 03:17
"You have to use earphones as antenna like in all phones"

Yeah, The antenna is in the adapter. You can plug in just the adapter and listen to the radio from loudspeaker

ICEman_c81
14-12-2007, 08:20
Thanks, i was interested in the earphone volume. I listened to 5610 but i'm going to get 5310 :)

@@
14-12-2007, 08:52
i guess so... 5310 is really loud, can even drive full size headphone...
Its the same as 5610 then.It has a very loud volume and can play very loud on my earphones who have much resistance.But its still below n91 :D

Ruhul
14-12-2007, 10:43
Does 5310 quieter than 6300? If not it's enough for me.

2kewl
15-12-2007, 03:09
Can anyone temme how to take a macro shot?

@@
15-12-2007, 11:17
Can anyone temme how to take a macro shot?
There is no macro mode in the phone but it can take macro shots.Just come close to a subject and let it autofocus well and take the pic if the autofocus square is green

2kewl
16-12-2007, 03:53
ok. Thx!

btw, Are there any firmware updates yet?

One thing that sucks is that we cannot select albums by keying in the alphabet. have to scroll through list to select it. But I'm thinking that this can be solved through a firmware update.

Also, how do we adjust te brightness setting or the cam. I see an option but btu not able to figure it out :-/

@@
16-12-2007, 11:29
No firmware update up to now.

Yes, we cannot search by typing the beginning of titles or albums.

In cam go to option>brightness then you move up and down to adjust the brightness

varsamakos
20-12-2007, 16:32
GSMArena - mobilmania.cz review :

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5610_xpressmusic-review-199.php

knights
20-12-2007, 18:33
varsamakos

no audio test result:(

@@
20-12-2007, 18:36
no audio test result
I was also waiting for that :(

My 5610 is going tomorrow :D

Ruhul
21-12-2007, 05:28
Where? Service centre?

2kewl
21-12-2007, 06:46
I hear short intermittent cracking sounds when a song is played through the headset. Can get really annoying sometimes...and this has nothing to do with a song, I hear it with different songs.

Does anyone else expereience similar issue? Hope a firmware update can fix this.

enerlevel
21-12-2007, 09:38
Does 5310 quieter than 6300? If not it's enough for me.



>> the new firmware for 6300 plays music louder then 5310 now. where as 5610 is the same as 5310 in terms of loudness. but the 6500 slide is even louder then all of them.

@@
21-12-2007, 13:49
Does anyone else expereience similar issue?
I wasnt getting this problem with mine.May be your phone is faulty.Try to change it for another one and see if you get the same problem


but the 6500 slide is even louder then all of them.
6500s is louder than 5610?Thats good but I dont know who will use such power as the 5610 is very loud :D

varsamakos
21-12-2007, 14:36
varsamakos

no audio test result:(

I know knights :-/ ...

I hope they will update this review :) !

Ruhul
22-12-2007, 07:45
@@, what happened to your 5610?

@@
22-12-2007, 09:44
@@, what happened to your 5610?
I sold it.Im using a K800 now :D .But I was able to make a comparison between n91, n81 and 5610 before I sold it :D

Awesome_Aleks
22-12-2007, 09:54
I sold it.Im using a K800 now :D .But I was able to make a comparison between n91, n81 and 5610 before I sold it :D

1. WHY!?!?!?!?!? The 5610 trumps the K800i...

2. Whats the comparison of sound quality?

@@
22-12-2007, 10:03
1. WHY!?!?!?!?!? The 5610 trumps the K800i...

2. Whats the comparison of sound quality?

1.I needed a cam phone and I got the K800 for cheap.The 5610 is focused on music and I have the N91.

2.5610 isnt far from n81.N81 has more bass.I made this comparison with EQ on.With EQ on default, N81 is better than 5610 as the 5610 is quite flat without EQ.The EQ on 5610 really affects the sound whereas the on n81 doesnt change it by much.With EQ on, the 5610 and N81 has about the same power, 5610 has less bass and like in the n76 and 5700, the two last bars in the volume drops bass to increase mids and highs whereas N81 doesnt have this which is better.In terms of power, N91 is really above N81.Sound quality on N91 is a bit better than N81 but not by much.
N91>n81>/=5610.5610 and N81 are very close and Im quite impressed by the performance of the 5610 for its price.
Earphones used: in-ear Sony MDR-EX90LP

thoreldan
24-12-2007, 06:26
Hi all,

I just got a blue 5610 yesterday and I noticed one problem.

whenever there's an incoming sms, the no. is shown instead of the name (i have that name in my phonebook)

Did some testing, and realised i need to add in my countrycode (+65) in front of the number in my phonebook to rectify the above problem.

It's going to be tedious if i need to go through the whole phonebook to insert the countrycode.

Anyone else experienced this? Is this a bug with the phone or telco?

Any help is deeply appreciated!

Ruhul
24-12-2007, 07:14
Yes, you have to add your country code with every number. My mum has the same problem with her nokia. It's really annoying. Not only with sms, it happens with incoming calls too.

qwertyuiop
24-12-2007, 10:52
hi. im a new user to this forum and i've got myself a nokia 5610.
i've got a question for you guys.

is the keypad abit loose? when i force abit on the keypad(the one with numbers on it) to the left, it 'swings' abit to the left. same goes to the right, up and down. anyone can confirm this with me?

noorumh
24-12-2007, 11:58
I know this thread is not for this question, but plz answer me,! i'm a lil outdated so can anyone explain what autofocus and macro mode are?

One more thing what is a smartphone and non-smartphone? i think a smartphone is one with an OS, so why isn't this phone a smartphone? it has an OS, doesn't it?

and what is this S40 FP1, doesn't this phone have Symbian? and des this S40 FP1 allow us to install third-party applications and themes and stuff?

chlettn
24-12-2007, 12:15
can anyone explain what autofocus and macro mode are?

Autofocus means that the camera uses a lens system that adjusts until the image is sharp in the point you're focussing on, just like pretty much all digicams do. The opposite of it is fixed focus, where the lenses are (nomen est omen) installed in a fixed position, and because of that, only pictures with the subjects within a certain distance come out as sharp, while close-up pictures are rather blurry...

Macro mode is for taking close-up shots, with a distance of only a dozen or so centimeters away from the subject.

One more thing what is a smartphone and non-smartphone?

There is no real definition of what a "smartphone" is exactly, but usually a phone capable of multitasking (handling more programs at the same time) and installing native apps (which are not as restricted and more powerful as Java apps are) is called a smartphone.

Here's a thread (http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=71983) discussing this very topic.

and what is this S40 FP1, doesn't this phone have Symbian?

S40 is the non-smart user interface of Nokia phones. It is very different from the Symbian-based S60, only sharing a similar name. S40 is not Symbian-based, it is a proprietary system developed by Nokia themselves.

FP1 is the first feature pack for the current S40 version 3. It adds a better music player and a few other things.

and des this S40 FP1 allow us to install third-party applications and themes and stuff?

It allows you to use Java apps, and there are lots of themes that you can use.

noorumh
24-12-2007, 16:26
Thanks! so it means that nokia 5700 is a smartphone since it runs Symbian but this one is not! this means that we can install applications on 5700 but not on 5610 (except Java, of course), right?

And, one stupid lil thing more, how do we quote the messages others post?

chlettn
24-12-2007, 16:40
Thanks! so it means that nokia 5700 is a smartphone since it runs Symbian but this one is not! this means that we can install applications on 5700 but not on 5610 (except Java, of course), right?

Yes, and yes :)


And, one stupid lil thing more, how do we quote the messages others post?

Just mark the part of the post you want to quote, and click on "Quote" in the lower right part of the post. Then it is copied to the edit field at the bottom of the page...

thoreldan
25-12-2007, 02:51
Yes, you have to add your country code with every number. My mum has the same problem with her nokia. It's really annoying. Not only with sms, it happens with incoming calls too.

hmm this lead to another problem...

now the phone recognize the new number (with +65) and display the name correctly for incoming sms.

But it does not recognize incoming calls now because these calls do not have a +65

Do i really have to have 2 set of every number, one with country code and one without??

this is driving me nuts :insane:

qwertyuiop
25-12-2007, 03:20
anyone can help me out on this. post #328

noorumh
25-12-2007, 08:43
is this contact problem only with thoreldan or is everyone experiencing it?
it really stinks to have a phonebook like that! i guess that's why they provided 2000 entries as compared to the usual 1000 entries!
Please, is anyone else experiencing this problem? how cud Nokia be so dumb

qwertyuiop
25-12-2007, 11:52
^ im not experiencing the problem you mentioned. works perfectly fine but sometimes when i use the music player and listen to music, i'll get a white screen and the phone just restarts and it updates the music library. happened 3 times already since i bought the phone.

TechFreak
25-12-2007, 12:05
hmm this lead to another problem...

now the phone recognize the new number (with +65) and display the name correctly for incoming sms.

But it does not recognize incoming calls now because these calls do not have a +65

Do i really have to have 2 set of every number, one with country code and one without??

this is driving me nuts :insane:

No, you do not have to have 2 sets of number. +65 is the country code of Singapore if I remember correctly.

If you are calling someone who is in Singapore when you're in Singapore, you do not need to put the country code in front of the number.

However, if you are calling someone who is in Singapore from Malaysia, you need to put Singapore's country code, I think.

If you're in Singapore and calling somebody in Malaysia, you need to put Malaysia's country code which is +60.

thoreldan
25-12-2007, 12:16
No, you do not have to have 2 sets of number. +65 is the country code of Singapore if I remember correctly.

If you are calling someone who is in Singapore when you're in Singapore, you do not need to put the country code in front of the number.

However, if you are calling someone who is in Singapore from Malaysia, you need to put Singapore's country code, I think.

If you're in Singapore and calling somebody in Malaysia, you need to put Malaysia's country code which is +60.

hi,

i guessed u misinterprete my problem...

i dont have problem with outgoing call or sms...but it's the incoming call and sms that drives me crazy.

incoming call registers a normal number
incoming sms registers a +65 in front of the number

in the end, i need have 2 set of number per contact, so that matching is possible for both incoming sms and calls

my caller ID screwed in another word

TechFreak
25-12-2007, 12:19
hi,

i guessed u misinterprete my problem...

i dont have problem with outgoing call or sms...but it's the incoming call and sms that drives me crazy.

incoming call registers a normal number
incoming sms registers a +65 in front of the number

in the end, i need have 2 set of number per contact, so that matching is possible for both incoming sms and calls

You do not need to have 2 sets of number still. +65 and without is the same thing, locally.

thoreldan
25-12-2007, 13:11
You do not need to have 2 sets of number still. +65 and without is the same thing, locally.

apparent that's the problem with my 5610

i have another 6120c and it acts as what you have described

2kewl
25-12-2007, 13:16
qwertyuiop: I think that's a bug. Happened to me once today. Have also heard about it from different users. Should be solved by a firmware upgrade

TechFreak
25-12-2007, 13:21
apparent that's the problem with my 5610

i have another 6120c and it acts as what you have described

It's not a problem with the phone. It's not even a problem at all, in my opinion.

thoreldan
25-12-2007, 13:26
It's not a problem with the phone. It's not even a problem at all, in my opinion.

you mean when people sms you, you see the number instead of the name is not a problem?

TechFreak
25-12-2007, 13:30
you mean when people sms you, you see the number instead of the name is not a problem?

It's a problem, if you have the person in your contact but their number is displayed instead when they SMS you. It's probably a firmware problem. However, I can't tell you much because I don't have this problem.

noorumh
25-12-2007, 16:31
Hey guys, i have a lil question

IS the sound recorder's memory limited or we can record until the memory runs out?

varsamakos
25-12-2007, 16:40
Hey guys, i have a lil question

IS the sound recorder's memory limited or we can record until the memory runs out?

1 hour voice recording ...

noorumh
25-12-2007, 16:47
and can we use the LEDs as torches (set them to be permanently on) ?

and the only apps that we can install on it are .jar ones, right? it can't support the .sis ones as those are for Symbian ones, right?

qwertyuiop
25-12-2007, 17:22
noorumh.

LEDS as torches. no.
yeah. .jar ones only

noorumh
26-12-2007, 08:50
Ok, and which mobiles support the .sis files?
The Symbian ones?

PaRaLuKe
26-12-2007, 10:42
hi,

i guessed u misinterprete my problem...

i dont have problem with outgoing call or sms...but it's the incoming call and sms that drives me crazy.

incoming call registers a normal number
incoming sms registers a +65 in front of the number

in the end, i need have 2 set of number per contact, so that matching is possible for both incoming sms and calls

my caller ID screwed in another word

Hi Thor

I have exactly the same problem as you did!!! Now checking with Nokia Care Centre to see if they have any solutions.

Basically is...

1) Phone book has +651234567

- Msges come in with +65, name appears.
- Calls come in (not sure yet, but I believe your situation will occur)
- Call out without +65, name does not appear.

2) Phone book does not have +65 (means its 1234567)

- Msges come in with +65, name does not appear.
- Calls come in normally with name (at least with the one I had)
- Call out without +65, name appears.

THIS IS BASICALLY SUCKY to begin with. Never had a problem with my other Nokia phones.

noorumh
26-12-2007, 11:55
Can anybody temme what kind of mobile phones support .sis applications? i think they are the Symbian ones, am i right?

One thing more, i was thinking as 6500 slide and 5610 have the same OS and the same 2.5 mm jack, can the 5610 support TV-out then, if we connect 6500 slide's cable into it?

noorumh
26-12-2007, 11:58
and one thing more

does the sound recorder record for 1 hour per clip or should all the recorded clips together not exceed a duration of 1 hour (i hope you get what i'm saying) ?

Robot
26-12-2007, 12:06
noorumh
first of all, use Edit instead of double posting.

Can anybody temme what kind of mobile phones support .sis applications? i think they are the Symbian ones, am i right?
yes, that's right Symbian OS support .sis/sisx files.
does the sound recorder record for 1 hour per clip or should all the recorded clips together not exceed a duration of 1
hour
I think it's 1 hour per clip.

TechFreak
26-12-2007, 12:08
Hi Thor

I have exactly the same problem as you did!!! Now checking with Nokia Care Centre to see if they have any solutions.

Basically is...

1) Phone book has +651234567

- Msges come in with +65, name appears.
- Calls come in (not sure yet, but I believe your situation will occur)
- Call out without +65, name does not appear.

2) Phone book does not have +65 (means its 1234567)

- Msges come in with +65, name does not appear.
- Calls come in normally with name (at least with the one I had)
- Call out without +65, name appears.

THIS IS BASICALLY SUCKY to begin with. Never had a problem with my other Nokia phones.

So to be safe, just add +65 in front of every number in your contact. I don't have this type of problem with my N93i though.

noorumh
27-12-2007, 08:54
TechFreak you still didn't understand the poor guy's problem, evn if he adds +65 the phone will identify only SMSs from that number not calls, so he has to have two sets of numbers for every contact, one with the country code and one w/o.
ParaLuke and the other guy who was having tis problem (Thoreldan?),
this is either a firmware problem or your handset is defective, take it back to your dealer and get it exchanged ASAP

And, does anyone have a link to a nice review for this phone, excluding gsmarena.com! I wonder when mobile-review will review this one!

And (sorry for not editing), can we run the music player in the background while we look at some pictures?

Ruhul
27-12-2007, 09:31
Yes you can. You can even browse internet, write sms, play games while listening music.

thoreldan
28-12-2007, 15:22
TechFreak you still didn't understand the poor guy's problem, evn if he adds +65 the phone will identify only SMSs from that number not calls, so he has to have two sets of numbers for every contact, one with the country code and one w/o.
ParaLuke and the other guy who was having tis problem (Thoreldan?),
this is either a firmware problem or your handset is defective, take it back to your dealer and get it exchanged ASAP

And, does anyone have a link to a nice review for this phone, excluding gsmarena.com! I wonder when mobile-review will review this one!

And (sorry for not editing), can we run the music player in the background while we look at some pictures?

hi,

I went back to my dealer and realised this is a batch problem
2 other customers were in the shop and buying the same phone. i requested for the sales person to do a test...and both had the same problem as mine.

anyway they're going to check with other branches and nokia and get back to me on monday

toocool
29-12-2007, 00:10
How many text messages can the phone memory hold?

jkp420
30-12-2007, 10:10
I want to buy this mobile & I want to know it's latest price.
Is this good phone ? please let me know.

Thanks

2kewl
30-12-2007, 10:14
Has anyone updated the firmware to 4.81? I tried a couple a times but it gets cancelled in the middle..says 'Software Update Failed'

azzkkr
30-12-2007, 11:07
@toocool i think its around 750 sms
@jkp the phone costs 13.2k inr.
wish it came with a 3.5mm jack. it would have been perfect.

2kewl
30-12-2007, 12:04
Hey..it has the 2.5-3.5 converter. So, that isn't a problem.

toocool
30-12-2007, 19:05
I want to buy this mobile & I want to know it's latest price.
Is this good phone ? please let me know.

Thanks

Phone is great.. Price is Rs 13000 with bill and warranty!

Grey market its around 12k

shiznitz
31-12-2007, 18:51
Hi all,

I don't think this topic was covered yet... Which wired stereo headsets work with the 5610 (and also let you use your own headphones)?

Does the HS-44/AD-44 work with the 5610? I think it should, because the male connector is 2.5mm...

http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=EDITORIAL_303533

The HS-45/AD-54 should not work, however, because the male connector is 3.5mm...

http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=EDITORIAL_335464

Anyone? Thanks!

Awesome_Aleks
01-01-2008, 00:02
I believe it comes with a remote kinda thing with a 3.5mm jack equipped

shiznitz
01-01-2008, 02:42
I believe it comes with a remote kinda thing with a 3.5mm jack equipped

Yeah, I know that, but I'm pretty sure the included remote doesn't have music controls (play/pause/ffwd/rew). I'm looking for a remote that lets you control the music playback and also lets you plug in your own headphones. Thanks.

jkp420
06-01-2008, 09:07
how much big volume of 5610, it this higher than 5300 , 5700 or similar ?

please let me know.

jkp420
06-01-2008, 09:13
how much loud volume of 5610 ? Is this loud than 5300, 5700 or similar ?

SuccessCre8or
06-01-2008, 21:39
my friend got a red one...

very good phone for its price..but i really think that this navi slide thing isn't reliable..:(
but slider is very good...a bit better than my W850 :)

n I really hate the glossy surface on its front :(:(

Xiztance
07-01-2008, 04:59
Hey guys, I just want to ask all of you people who updated their firmware to ver 4.81, any idea what updates where made?
Another thing, is anyone else experiencing the lag when answering calls using the slider, it takes about 1-2 secs??

M H
07-01-2008, 20:52
An really positive review from SMAPE

Music
The DSP operates such sophisticated characteristics as the dynamic range (the ability to reproduce both high and low frequency sounds with equal quality), the frequency range, the noise levels, non-linear distortion and so on. Combined with the multitude of customizable settings, the sound quality of the 5310 and 5610 stays on an unmatched level. These two are among the best music phones ever, as far as the objectiveness of such a criterion as "the best" goes (since tastes differ). Some of the consumers are only concerned with the maximum loudness, some prefer the high quality of sound and so on, some are keen on equalizer settings and some care mostly for the long battery life. The notion of a perfect music phone comprises a multitude of factors, and keeping with all of them won't ever make product with a price easily affordable to its target audience.

However Nokia did their best to realize most of these features in the 5310 and 5610 model at the same time keeping the price on a tame level, the principal advantages are the long-lasting battery charges (18:50 and 20:20 hours of continuous music playback cycle respectively and the unmatched sound quality - as for the latter aspect, the two Nokias are clearly leading in the whole segment. The Walkman phones produced by SonyEricsson have a worse audio quality, less loud speakers, they lack dedicated player controls and are generally inferior in the realization of musical features except the player interface. The new Samsung F330 and i450 phones pose a worthier challenge to the 5610, sporting some advantages and disadvantages as compared to the former.

Conclusion
Nokia 5610 XpressMusic is an extremely balanced handset and is likely to be the best music phone found in its class. This position is perfectly justified by the high audio quality which puts it on par with the top musical solutions on today's market. The two other major advantages are the long battery life and the comfortable controls. Nokia 5310 sports a comparable music functionality, but taking a more general look at the two, the 5610 seems to offer a broader functionality in the non-musical sphere - the 3G support and better camera. When the price gets stabilized on the level stated by the manufacturer (about 300 euros) then the handset will become a really fine choice.

Review: http://www.smape.com/en/reviews/nokia/Nokia_5610-rev.html

knights
08-01-2008, 05:55
m.h

still, they didnt provide RMAA datas... i assume that its same as 5310...


a very good phone... i think its time to replace my w810...

Ruhul
08-01-2008, 06:54
Knights, than i need your feedback. One of friend want to replace his 6233. So, needs your feedback.

S t a n
08-01-2008, 14:42
m.h
still, they didnt provide RMAA datas... i assume that its same as 5310...
a very good phone... i think its time to replace my w810...
Here is one of the few reviews of N5610
http://www.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=1702
in Russian. But U can see RMAA charts via Creative SB Audigy. In terms of harmonic distortion N5610 really sucks! SE 660 beats N5610 3,5%/0,02%=150 (!!!) times.
Besides, intermodulation = 1,4% (bad), intermodulation at 10KHz=0,7% (bad).
Hey, Nokia, what for you have integrated superwow dedicated audiochip?
Moreover, with firmware 4.20 mp3 player restarts every 30-40 minutes.
SAR 1,14Watts\kg (compare to 0,3W from the newest samsungs).
Headset without advanced remote control.
And this is music phone after all?
I am really dissapointed.

landlord
08-01-2008, 16:14
But U can see RMAA charts via Creative SB Audigy. In terms of harmonic distortion N5610 really sucks! SE 660 beats N5610 3,5%/0,02%=150 (!!!) times.

That's the problem with stats - the biggest impression they leave is often on the equipment employed to gather them, not the end user :). I find the sound of mine to be warm and characterful compared to a previous Sony Ericsson, which was bright and a bit hard-sounding even through high-quality cans. But harmonic distortion will do that, to a degree.

Moreover, with firmware 4.20 mp3 player restarts every 30-40 minutes.

Mine was running fine after playing for about six hours as I forgot to switch it off. <Runs off to check firmware> yup, v4.20. But it's a UK version, if that makes a difference.

And this is music phone after all?
I am really dissapointed.
I'd go with how it sounds, not how it measures up on a test bench. Not using a 3.5mm jack on a music phone is the biggest letdown for me, even if there's an adaptor in the box...

S t a n
08-01-2008, 16:44
I find the sound of mine to be warm and characterful compared to a previous Sony Ericsson
Well, lamp based component hi-end analog amplifiers may have 3% harmonic distortions and they give "warm" aka pleasant for human ears sound vs component 0,003% transistors based digital amplifiers, BUT here we have both digital units and amplifiers in N5610 and SE 660, that's why the one that has the lowest distortions is the clear winner. N5610 wins a little in noise to ratio (5-7 Db), but who will care this, listening music at the street or in a bus?
Not using a 3.5mm jack on a music phone is the biggest letdown for me, even if there's an adaptor in the box...
As 2 me, 2,5mm jack is advantage because you can fit any other 3,5mm headphones via bundled 2,5mm-->3,5mm adaptor AND not loosing remote control incorporated into adapter. Compare to N5310: if you fit 3rd party 3,5mm headpnones to it's native 3,5mm jack -you will loose a) answer button b) remote control.

One more serious problem in firmware 4.20 (supplied to Russia at least): both in N5310 and N5610 people hear annoying "clicks" while mp3 playback! And what if this problem is not firmware dependent, but hardware depended? If the second - it's gonna be a great Contra vs N5610.
Actually I am choosing between N5610 and Samsung G600 as musicphotophones and the winner in not clear for me yet due to the bags in N5610.

landlord
08-01-2008, 20:49
BUT here we have both digital units and amplifiers in N5610 and SE 660, that's why the one that has the lowest distortions is the clear winner.

Ah. When you quoted THD I assumed it was analog (that term has been around for a very long time!).

N5610 wins a little in noise to ratio (5-7 Db), but who will care this, listening music at the street or in a bus?

Doesn't that argument hold for all aspects of audio quality, though?

As 2 me, 2,5mm jack is advantage because you can fit any other 3,5mm headphones via bundled 2,5mm-->3,5mm adaptor AND not loosing remote control incorporated into adapter. Compare to N5310: if you fit 3rd party 3,5mm headpnones to it's native 3,5mm jack -you will loose a) answer button b) remote control.

Good point - I hadn't thought of that. I'm not sophisticated enough to handle remotes on the headset wire, though :)

One more serious problem in firmware 4.20 (supplied to Russia at least): both in N5310 and N5610 people hear annoying "clicks" while mp3 playback! And what if this problem is not firmware dependent, but hardware depended? If the second - it's gonna be a great Contra vs N5610.

That happened with the 6280, IIRC, when I was researching that unit. In the end my handset wasn't affected - the only clicking I heard was the sound of the top slider rattling against the bottom one. Equally irritating...

S t a n
09-01-2008, 05:28
That happened with the 6280, IIRC
So, and what is assumption or resume regarding N5610 - will Nokia fix this mp3 bug (clicks) - is this firmware or hardware problem?

shiznitz
10-01-2008, 21:21
As 2 me, 2,5mm jack is advantage because you can fit any other 3,5mm headphones via bundled 2,5mm-->3,5mm adaptor AND not loosing remote control incorporated into adapter. Compare to N5310: if you fit 3rd party 3,5mm headpnones to it's native 3,5mm jack -you will loose a) answer button b) remote control.


Wait... there are 3.5mm jack headsets that still support remote control & call answering via the adapter. (for example, the HS-45/AD-54)

So, a 2.5mm jack is not necessarily more functional than a 3.5mm jack in this regard (it must vary by phone).

azzkkr
11-01-2008, 14:53
the 5310 comes with a 3.5 jack on the remote(call answer key only) other than built in jack. also the lack music control keys like the 5310,on the body of the 5610 is a real minus for me.

shiznitz
11-01-2008, 20:51
the 5310 comes with a 3.5 jack on the remote(call answer key only) other than built in jack. also the lack music control keys like the 5310,on the body of the 5610 is a real minus for me.

That's a good point. On the 5610, do you have to 'foreground' the music player in order to control music playback? This (if true), plus the fact that the attached remote has almost zero music controls, makes this pretty unfriendly as a music player, no?!

I think I will get the 5310 instead... :(

azzkkr
11-01-2008, 21:09
shiznitz, i am not sure whether the music player window has to be maximised. basically i dont like removin the phone from my pocket always to control playback. on my current walkman,can just press short cut keys when phone is in pocket itself. easy! i guess 5310 is better in that respect.

9mmpistol
13-01-2008, 19:18
Has anybody else noticed it seems to be exclusive to O2 in the UK?

S t a n
17-01-2008, 07:30
Known mp3 bugs in initial 4.20 firmware (regarding model, supplied to Russia at least):
- permanent restarts of a mobile phone after 30-40 minutes of mp3 playback (many reports in russian and english forums, even in russian review by mobile phones site),
- jerks and clicks while mp3 playback every 15-20 seconds (some reports in Russian forums).

As to me, it prevents me from buying mp3-oriented N5610 MUSIC phone untill bugs will be fixed.

Does anyone can tell me the current situation with mp3 bugs in 4.81 firmware? And other differences between 4.20 and 4.81 versions? I don't know where to see the list of improvements and changes (4.81 vs 4.20).
The newest firmware version is 4.81?

How can we notify NOKIA support about these problems? May be NOKIA even don't know about them?

One more question regarding updating from 4.20:
If I shall buy N5610 with 4.20 (there are no 4.81's available phones in our stores yet) firmware and then make update to 4.81 via NOKIA site - shall I loose my native language support (Russian)in phone (there are some reports that such update kills native language).

If anyone is interested in this subtopic, you may check the same post at Nokia support forum http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&thread.id=26162
The truth is somewhere near...

Mos
17-01-2008, 20:33
Hi Guys, I have some questions. anyones post will be helpful for me to decide which cell should I purchase.
I have Nokia N70 ME already. It has a very nice shape and excellent music in headset.However, it has a low MP cam. I want a good cam too along with excellent music.
Please answer the following questions regarding N73 ME and Nokia5610 XpressMusic
1) Does Nokia5610XM Music quality and loudness is equal to N73ME in speakers and in headset?
2) Which one has better display of pics and videos?
3) Which one can capture better still pics and videos?
4) Is there some problem with the slide of 5610XM?
5) Can 5610XM play all the music and video formats as N73ME?
6) Is 5610XM a Symbian fone? If not, then the technology used in 5610XM is better than in N73ME?
7) Any other advice is welcomed :)

Thanks in advance.
Mos

Jo
18-01-2008, 02:14
1) music quality of the 5610 is better... but with EQ n73 can be as good... (activate stereo widening and loudness)
2) for video n73 is better... bigger screen... it plays more formats.
3) still pics --> n73 video recording 352x288 15fps , video recording--> 5610. 640x480 15fps
4)not that i have heard of
5)erm no.. but it plays the most common, you should have a problem with this... the n73 have smartmovie = more formats.
6) sadly not yet...for music quality 5610 better. it support bigger cards.

also look at the samsung f330.

good luck

varsamakos
18-01-2008, 14:15
I take my friend's K800 and I take some shots ..
(default settings, high quality in both phones)

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200989429&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200986007&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200990127&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200986669&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200990765&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201778348&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201782946&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201778798&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200992245&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200994471&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201784450&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200994807&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2200993873&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201786852&size=l

K800 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201779636&size=l
5610 :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201780192&size=l


All the options in K800's camera menu was "normal" and "auto"
the same in 5610 ,
so why K800's pics is like that ? I forgot something :( ?




4) Is there some problem with the slide of 5610XM?


Nope .

chlettn
18-01-2008, 14:19
so why K800's pics is like that ? I forgot something?

Looks like a dirty lens to me...

Ac|D
18-01-2008, 14:29
Looks like a dirty lens to me...
Yeah it might be that , if it isn't dirty than the camera might have some problem with the focusing .
Try to clean the lens first .

varsamakos
18-01-2008, 14:39
Try to clean the lens first .

I do that before the shots but maybe its ...

a dirty lens

:(

I was hoping for a few good comparison shots, S**t :-/ .



Edit : Here is the K800
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201037679&size=m

@@
18-01-2008, 14:42
I think its very dirty lens.The K800 is among the best 3mp phones.Those pics arent normal.Try to clean the lens or may be the cam got some slight problems

Ac|D
18-01-2008, 14:46
Well it doesn't seem so dirty to me to produce such images .

@@
18-01-2008, 14:50
yeah thats right.That K800 isnt normal.May be the cam got damaged as it seems the phone has been used quite a lot

varsamakos
18-01-2008, 14:53
The K800 is among the best 3mp phones.

I know , this is the reason for me to take these pics .


Try to clean the lens


I do that , no improvement at all .


It seems that I'll kick my friend's a** :mad: ..


The problem is that I dont have the chance to take one of my friends phone
for a few hours . They are egoists :D
Never mind ..


Edit : I suggest in one of my friends the k810 , so when it's available for me
I'll take a lot of pics .

sms
18-01-2008, 14:55
why isn't everyone even considering the possibility that the 5610XM takes better shots? it doesn't seem that impossible to me; the K800 was the best in its time, which is two long years ago, technology develops last time I checked!

Ac|D
18-01-2008, 14:55
I think it has some problem with the focusing .
why isn't everyone even considering the possibility that the 5610XM takes better shots?
sms , it might take better pictures than K800 but still whit those pictures you can't really decide which is better .
The pictures from the K800 are really bad .

varsamakos
18-01-2008, 15:02
A firmware update will solve these problems ?

@@
18-01-2008, 15:35
why isn't everyone even considering the possibility that the 5610XM takes better shots?
Yes it does take better shot at times.Better sharpness and good coulours in the 5610 at times.It varies on which one is better depending on the situation.I had both before


A firmware update will solve these problems ?
Yes it may solve the problem but it doesnt seem to be a software problem :-/

Mos
18-01-2008, 18:27
1) music quality of the 5610 is better... but with EQ n73 can be as good... (activate stereo widening and loudness)
2) for video n73 is better... bigger screen... it plays more formats.
3) still pics --> n73 video recording 352x288 15fps , video recording--> 5610. 640x480 15fps
4)not that i have heard of
5)erm no.. but it plays the most common, you should have a problem with this... the n73 have smartmovie = more formats.
6) sadly not yet...for music quality 5610 better. it support bigger cards.

also look at the samsung f330.

good luck

Thanks a lot Jo,
In the light of your views, I have a conclusion. Please anyone can comment on my conclusion.
1) Music quality of 5610XM is better than N73 ME.
3) Still pics are better with 5610XM than N73 ME. But I can't understand this 'n73 video recording 352x288 15fps , video recording--> 5610. 640x480 15fps'. As for as I understood from this, is that , (5610. 640x480 15fps) 5610 can run better music, is'nt it?
6) 5610 has better music quality than N73 ME--> means both on speaker and on headset?
Thanks in advance.

Ac|D
18-01-2008, 18:38
But I can't understand this 'n73 video recording 352x288 15fps , video recording--> 5610. 640x480 15fps'. As for as I understood from this, is that , (5610. 640x480 15fps) 5610 can run better music, is'nt it?
No that is actually the resolution and the frame rate ( fps - frames per second ) of the Video that the phone records .
On the N73 is CIF ( 352 x 288 pixels ) , on the 5610 is VGA ( 640 x 480 ) .
FPS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
CIF : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Intermediate_Format
VGA : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vga

S t a n
18-01-2008, 18:58
BAD NEWS-04.81 FW DOES NOT FIX MP3 BUGS OF 04.20 FW!
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&thread.id=26162
Nokia XM 5610 really sux!

Mos
18-01-2008, 19:46
No that is actually the resolution and the frame rate ( fps - frames per second ) of the Video that the phone records .
On the N73 is CIF ( 352 x 288 pixels ) , on the 5610 is VGA ( 640 x 480 ) .
FPS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
CIF : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Intermediate_Format
VGA : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vga

Thnx Vace,
So high resolution means good video quality, that means 5610 has good video quality than N73 ME?

Ac|D
18-01-2008, 20:07
You're welcome :)
Yes , 5610 has better video quality than N73 .

varsamakos
18-01-2008, 22:56
Here are a lot of 5610's pics ..

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004zd4.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=005io4.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=008tb0.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000si3.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=016nn1.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=017ct6.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=019rr5.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=025uq7.jpg

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Take a look at the last one , very nice macro shot !

Mweb
18-01-2008, 22:59
Very good images indeed Varsamakos, proving that the 5610 is not just a top music phone, but a great all round device!!

Jo
19-01-2008, 03:05
Mos erm still pics n73 is slightly better, but video 5610 XM sorry if i confused you.
speakers n73 is better, but in the headset the 5610 is better...

Ac|D
19-01-2008, 12:01
Yes very nice images varsamakos , and that macro shot is pretty good ! :cool:

varsamakos
19-01-2008, 13:45
Yes very nice images varsamakos , and that macro shot is pretty good ! :cool:

Very good images indeed Varsamakos

Thanks guys :) !

Indeed , its very good in macro mode !

@@
19-01-2008, 13:59
5610 is not just a top music phone, but a great all round device!!
Exactly.Its the best affordable all rounder with very good screen with decent size, good cam, powerful dual LED, very good music quality, good battery life, relatively slim, light and stylish.


speakers n73 is better
N73 speakers are better bekoz its stereo.Apart from that they sound too harsh as they are tiny speakers.The 5610 has only one speaker but the sound is decent and with more low frequencies and therefore more balanced.Well, thats my opinion

Jo
19-01-2008, 15:06
@@ i tested both... before buying.
kinda it depends on the tweaking.. with loudness on yes they are big too harsh.

@@
19-01-2008, 18:36
i tested both... before buying
I owned both :p.
It depends on tweaking too but the N73 speakers are too harsh tweaked or not tweaked

koRngear
19-01-2008, 19:24
5610 is a decent S40 allrounder. I think it si the only 3 MPixel camphone is S40, ain't it?

Mweb
19-01-2008, 19:27
5610 is a decent S40 allrounder. I think it si the only 3 MPixel camphone is S40, ain't it?

6500 slide is too, but that's an old mans phone :D

koRngear
19-01-2008, 19:30
Okay, but 6500 faced much problems like slder, bugs etc. Is the 3 MPixel cam quality same on them then?

Mweb
19-01-2008, 19:32
AFAIK they are quite similar in many respects Korny :D

calle909
19-01-2008, 21:36
AFAIK they are quite similar in many respects Korny :D

AFAIK they are exactly the same except for the design

varsamakos
19-01-2008, 22:24
5610 is a decent S40 allrounder. I think it si the only 3 MPixel camphone is S40, ain't it?

There is also the 7390 with 3mp camera .

Afair , 6500's slider is the same as in 5610 ..
I tested my friend's 6500 and I realize that the slider is exactly the same as mine .
I dont know about bugs so, except for bugs the are almost the same phone ..

Rahvin
20-01-2008, 14:09
6500 AF is weird:spy: i tried one yesterday and sometimes it focuses and sometimes not(although i focused on same distance!)
btw varsamakos, could u pls tell me how is the jbenchmark of this phone? i am really curious:D

varsamakos
20-01-2008, 14:30
Please show the way .. I dont know :-/ ..

I have only Jb v1.0 , is that the right version ?

Rahvin
20-01-2008, 16:23
yes, it is the correct version
just tell me the overall result, that's the only thing i want to know:D no need of auxiliary ones

varsamakos
20-01-2008, 17:18
Performance :

JBenchmark3D HQ : 129

JBenchmark3D LQ : 252


Is that what you ask :) ?

I can't find overall result :-/

Rahvin
20-01-2008, 18:18
nice results
thanks varsamakos. the phone performs well:jump::jump:

varsamakos
20-01-2008, 18:49
You're welcome motoman :) !

There are two more differences between 3rd and 5th edition ,

When you send a message it automatically go in standby screen, so no need
for "back" key ..
There is an prediction option in messages where you can change it to
"Word suggestions" ..
So, when you want to write the word "hello" with T9 ,
you press 4-3-5 and then you can press the * key and it predicts the word hello ..

landlord
20-01-2008, 21:57
nice results
thanks varsamakos. the phone performs well:jump::jump:
My view also. I guess if this phone sucks, then it's the first sucky phone I've had that's a whole heap better than a lot of other phones that don't suck :).

Seems the slider does get a bit looser from new, and moves slightly from side to side when you open it. No rattly-tappety noises, though, and it doesn't sound like it's about the shake itself apart when a vibrating tone goes off.

daemon
21-01-2008, 04:40
hello guys,

i brought the 5610 recently..i was a sony ericsson user before and i thought ..well i might as well try out nokia..i am seriously impressed by its hardware quality..the music output is too good and camera rocks..

but i am very dissapointed by the software in this phone..compared to this my w810i was way ahead.I really dont know whether i have missed something..kindly point oout if i have

1. No InCall timer. U really wont have any idea how long you have been talking until u finish talking and u see the phone summary..

2.The user interface u get while calling just sucks..In my previous SE the user interface used to change whenver the caller picked up the phone. here you have to keep the phone to your ear all the time

3. cant use led as torch. i have to use a downloaded program all the time..urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

4.U cant charge ur phone thru USB cable..why why why nokia did u have to change to microUSB.

5. No battery warning signal..there is no audio or vibrating alert that tells you that the battery is low and on top of that the battery charge indicator goes from say 100% to 50% in one single step..This is insane..

6. Only one alarm. I mean u can set a repeated alarm and tths it.. for eg.. my alarm is set to ring at 7 every day..I cannot keep any other alarm other than this for say, wake me from an afternoon nap..

i really dont know whether i wud have more rude surprises in future..but has there been a software update which rectifies all this

NOKIAAA what were u guys thinking???????? do we have to check for a jar file for every small and silly thing..

But other than these the phone is really good..i am more of a music lover and i love the sound quality

Awesome_Aleks
21-01-2008, 09:25
What downloaded program do you use to make the LED work as a torch?

diaboleek
21-01-2008, 13:32
Hi folks! Does anyone know how 5610 sounds in headphones compared to N91?!

daemon
21-01-2008, 14:48
hi aleks,

in the 5610 u cant make the led work as a torch..but u can downlaod a program to make the screen white..u can get that in getjar.com

@@
21-01-2008, 15:06
diaboleek
This was already answered somewhere in the thread or in another thread I think ;). N91 is louder, more bassy and slightly clearer but the 5610 is still very good

shiznitz
21-01-2008, 19:40
can someone please confirm:

is there any way to play/pause/ffw/rew music without bringing the music player to the foreground? or do you have to be looking at the phone's screen in order to control the music?

(the headset only has one music control, for advancing tracks i believe?)

Mos
21-01-2008, 20:18
No that is actually the resolution and the frame rate ( fps - frames per second ) of the Video that the phone records .
On the N73 is CIF ( 352 x 288 pixels ) , on the 5610 is VGA ( 640 x 480 ) .
FPS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
CIF : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Intermediate_Format
VGA : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vga


Hi Guys,
Thanks to all
I am little bit confused here. I read almost all the posts to forum but I could not conclude that should I go for N73 ME or 5610 XM?
My main concern is still pics quality and music quality both in speakers and in headfone. Videos are not my primary concern. Please suggest one of the aove two. Please keep in mind my primary concerns. Thanks again.
However, I have a question too?
I have N70 ME and has Symbian which is much flexible to install/uninstall/multitasking nd thats nice. 5610 platform has also the same features in its OS?

varsamakos
21-01-2008, 20:51
is there any way to play/pause/ffw/rew music without bringing the music player to the foreground?

Nope .
You can only go to the next track by pressing headset's button .



I have N70 ME and has Symbian which is much flexible to install/uninstall/multitasking nd thats nice. 5610 platform has also the same features in its OS?

5610 isn't based in s60 platform so you cant install apps / multitask etc .

Awesome_Aleks
21-01-2008, 23:22
hi aleks,

in the 5610 u cant make the led work as a torch..but u can downlaod a program to make the screen white..u can get that in getjar.com

Oh Ok :( I wish Nokia made it's LED's usable as torchs

@@
22-01-2008, 11:51
Oh Ok I wish Nokia made it's LED's usable as torchs
The N93i had it.I dont know for N93.It was very useful

samuelby
28-01-2008, 13:10
just got mine today & its color blue! loving it..:jump:

Razer
28-01-2008, 13:13
just got mine today & its color blue! loving it..
Congrats dude.Enjoy the phone.How is the sound and video quality?

samuelby
28-01-2008, 14:06
Congrats dude.Enjoy the phone.How is the sound and video quality?

the sound quality.. i can say its just the same as my previous 5310..
i havent tested the camera..because i dont want to remove the clear sticker on it yet..:D

but, i'm quite dissapointed when i transfered 30fps & 24fps mp4 videos to my 5610, its jerky & not smooth unlike my 6120 classic that can play videos smoothly, even in different kinds of format!:down:

anyway, just like everyones saying here.. the slider & the built is very solid.. very nice & the keypad is miles better than my 6120 classic..

im happy! :love:

varsamakos
28-01-2008, 14:10
Congratulations, samuelby !

@@
28-01-2008, 21:50
but, i'm quite dissapointed when i transfered 30fps & 24fps mp4 videos to my 5610, its jerky & not smooth unlike my 6120 classic that can play videos smoothly, even in different kinds of format!
Congrats for your phone.You will have to reduce your framerate to about 20fps or even less.I found 17fps good without any jerks

Awesome_Aleks
28-01-2008, 22:31
Do you still have the 5310?

samuelby
29-01-2008, 03:49
Congratulations, samuelby !

thanks!:)

Congrats for your phone.You will have to reduce your framerate to about 20fps or even less.I found 17fps good without any jerks

Ok, i'll try, thanks for the tip!:)

Do you still have the 5310?

nope.. i already sold it & also my 6120 classic..;)

PJ:
29-01-2008, 11:32
Quick question: Does this phone accepts SDHC cards?

Thanx :)

samuelby
29-01-2008, 13:55
Guys! Bad News!!

My phone seems to have a problem(or just bugs?)..:weep:

the phone freezed 2x already.. it happened first last night when i transfered AAC+ songs (about 130mb) in the memory card, i opened the music player and it said "updating the library" but all of a sudden it just freezed, i tried to turn it off but the screen went white.. then i had to remove the battery & put it again. i turned it on, but my phone cannot longer detect the memory card!! i thought the card was corrupted so i replaced it w/ my extra 128mb card but it still cannot recognize.. i was really pissed & very worried..

i put back the original 1GB card again.. but it still cannot detect! but when i opened the music player, the card was finally recognized & the library was updated w/o freezing..

then the 2nd time it freeze was when i was taking pictures.
after 8 or 10 shots it freezed again.. & i had to do the same thing.. but it took the phone how many minutes to recognize the card again..:(

other thing that bugs me is you can always hear a tiny clicking sound, like 2 or 3 times when listening to a song.

i really like everything in this phone..
but i dont know what to do if i should return this or just wait for the firmware?:(

varsamakos
29-01-2008, 14:36
Quick question: Does this phone accepts SDHC cards?

Thanx :)

Do you mean micro-SDHC ?

Yeah it supports ..

PJ:
29-01-2008, 14:58
Do you mean micro-SDHC ?

Yeah it supports ..

Yes. I was not sure if it accepted those kind of cards or only the regular microSD ones. So, does it mean that it can accept 6/8Gb cards like the Nseries phones?

Thanx :)

varsamakos
29-01-2008, 15:18
Yeah it can .. I have 4gb micro-SDHC and it works perfectly ..

PJ:
29-01-2008, 15:21
Thanx for the feedback, I might check it out soon :)

PJ:
29-01-2008, 17:54
Did anyone already used a microSD SDHC 6Gb/8Gb cards in this phone? Any problems?

varsamakos
29-01-2008, 17:54
You're welcome ..

Which card you are gonna use (capacity) ?

Edit : Same time questions :)

PJ:
29-01-2008, 18:14
Well, I wanted to use a microSD SDHC 8Gb I have but I still havent find a single person (from the foruns) who has used it in this phone.

I really needed a confirmation of that cos the 2Gb card that comes in the package is not enough for me.

I have almost 4Gb in my card btw... and counting

:)

PJ:
29-01-2008, 18:36
Ok, a little update...

This is what I could find:

Sandisk: http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8646)-Nokia-5610.aspx

So, they say the phone accepts 6Gb cards and may accept the 8Gb one.


On the other hand, Kingston says it only accepts up to 4Gb cards, but then again I dont believe Kingston has bigger cards, so...

My guess is that it will accept the 8Gb but I would love to have someone actually confirming that.

daemon
30-01-2008, 05:12
Originally Posted by @@
Congrats for your phone.You will have to reduce your framerate to about 20fps or even less.I found 17fps good without any jerks


hi how do u do that..how do u reduce the frame rate to 20fps

ghostrider
30-01-2008, 09:12
Hey guys! I have a D900 which i bought in april 2007, here in Dubai, U.A.E.

I am thinking of upgrading it to either nokia 5610 or 6500 slide.

I know that both the phones are similar, but is the slider quality the same??:confused:

Also, does the keypad get scratched easily? I have read that on many websites, even mobile-review says in its review of 6500 slide that the keypad is coated with a metal finish which can wear out. It also says that the metal finish of the phone gets a little scratched, though that's not quite noticible.

Also I tried out the 5610 in one shop and i didn't feel the slider quality that great. 6500 slider quality was great, though.

Last question. Is this upgrade (d900 to 5610/6500 slide) worth it??:insane: :confused:
I don't like my d900 much since you can't save the pictures directly to the memory card, it hangs while playing full length movies, and not much softwares and applications r available as they r for 5610/6500 slide i.e nokia phones. Last defect in my phone. It doesn't have auto focus locking system, so even the TINIEST shake makes your pictures come blurry, and the flash sucks:(

There is this very good video review of 6500 slide. check it out if u haven't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsSPSlSr4A&feature=related

please reply to my questions in the post above the one with a link

Awesome_Aleks
31-01-2008, 21:51
Does the adaptor work as an FM Radio receiver?

Like you can use your own headphones with the adaptor and still receive FM Radio

chlettn
31-01-2008, 22:01
Like you can use your own headphones with the adaptor and still receive FM Radio

I haven't tried it myself, but I also see no reason why it shouldn't work. Even my N70's radio worked with a AD-15 3.5mm adaptor and generic headphones...

PJ:
01-02-2008, 00:08
Does the adaptor work as an FM Radio receiver?


It does :)

ACErash
01-02-2008, 14:28
For some strange reason I've got a big crack over the plastic frame of music/radio's navi key, ...I must confess I've always handled it with lots of care, so the crack took me by surprise indeed ..., anyways it was just about the time to selll my 5610 & get a new phone, so I'm not worried that much, but aside from the mentioned crack, 5610 served me an absolute 1.5months of problem-free good service ;) but still the crack on the navi'key is utterly unexpected.

EDIT:
Ghostrider >>

I can rate both 6500Slide and 5610 as Nokia's best S40 phones of 2007 (bar their keypad issues), both are equipped with great sound quality through speakers, nice finish-quality, great battery life (in the Non-3G mode), very stable software (in 5610), good sized-display and very easy to use interface as well as their catchy slim-looks,

anyhow as you've already heard, 6500Slide does have this scratch problem on its keypad, which in my case happend right after 2 or 3 weeks of light usage and at the end it looked like as if i had used my phone for 2 or 3 years instead LOL
And yet 5610 had a problem of its own too, infact for some weird reason i've got a broken keypad (frame of the music/navi-key, please refer to post #457 in this thread).

You can rate 6500slide as a classy bussiness phone and 5610 as a sporty music-phone with a great camera module, but one thing for sure is to bare in mind that both of them are having some keypad issues, which is rather an important thing before you decide to get any of them.

csae2014
01-02-2008, 23:19
I've got a strange quest regarding the 5610:
I've read, that there a a few ringtone-profiles to choose from. and 2 or 3 you can edit yourself + the flight-modus.
my question: is it possible to set one of the user configurable profiles to a second flightmodus? 'cos I would like to have a flightmodus where there are also all the tones and alarms set to off. is that possible?

S t a n
03-02-2008, 11:06
Yeah it can .. I have 4gb micro-SDHC and it works perfectly ..
You can't say that 5610 supports SDHC more than 4GB volume, because:
a) You haven't tested them
b) 5610 ofiicially supports microSD (NOT microSDHC) up to 4GB, do you feel the difference?

ghostrider
04-02-2008, 15:45
Thanks a LOT for that reply, ACErash. It cleared a lot of doubts from my mind. Just one last question, is the slider on 5610 loose or something?
Is it as good as 6500?
I have almost finalised 5610 as an upgrade, so i am in a dire need for the answer.
Q. Is the slider on 5610 good? I mean is it solid and won't go loose later??

S t a n
04-02-2008, 16:31
It cleared a lot of doubts from my mind.
Before you will go to a shop ,read this:
http://eng.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=44
An annoying glitch in 4.20 firmware turned the music playback duration test into not very catching game: after every 30-40 minutes of playback, the phones reloads, hereupon our test is interrupted. Though we tried to make use of another adapter, the problem remained.
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&thread.id=25161
«I have been trying to update my 5610 to the latest firmware 4.81 HOPING THAT IT'D SOLVED THE CRACKING SOUND PROBLEM»
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&thread.id=26162
NOKIA 5610XM: ARE MP3 BUGS FIXED IN NEW 4.81 FIRMWARE?
http://discussions.nokia.co.uk/discussions/board/message?board.id=phones&message.id=33424&query.id=272773#M33424
5610 hanged! Hi, i just find that when charging Xpress Music 5610, when u are listening to music or in the music player menu, & that during which u receive an sms, your phone will hang.
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...cending&page=2
my phone went scilent when it was playing music...it restarted...when i put in pin i only see white screen..blinks couple of times and thats it...its not working...i thought the problem might be with sd card and i was right when u take it out phone starts and works normaly...dunnu what happened with the card..mabe wrong format=) it was only 1gig..and i got it with the phone... then i updaited the firmware to 04.81...but there's another problem...after turnig the phone on and playing mp3 for about an hour the phone hangs for 10 or 20 sec and the player starts updaiting the library...if you dont turn the phone off this bug wont apear...it apears after restarting or turning on the phone...and this new firmware 04.81 is not helping.
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...=234479#M32694
Everytime when I receive a text message while I listen to the music player, my nokia 5610 freezes….Mine too, When I was listening to music same happened to my nokia, but this time no text message, all of a sudden my phone froze and the display turned to white and started blinking just like a VGA card faliure.
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...=234719#M26049
after i updated my firmware from 4.20 to 4.81, cracking sound playing my music files are still there...Sigh..I have the same problems updating to the latest firmware! ...It seems my phone doesn't have problems with crackling sound but when I manage paired bluetooth devices It reboots every time...

=======

Not enough yet for taking the decision regarding upgrade to 5610 ? :)

Mos
04-02-2008, 19:10
I have Nokia N70 ME. I just want to know that can I update its OS to Symbian 9.2? Also, can I get this latest Symbian free from the internet?
Thanks in Advance.
Mos

Razer
04-02-2008, 19:39
I have Nokia N70 ME. I just want to know that can I update its OS to Symbian 9.2? Also, can I get this latest Symbian free from the internet?
Thanks in Advance.
Mos
You cantdo that.You can only update the firmware.

Mos
04-02-2008, 21:51
You cantdo that.You can only update the firmware.

Thnx erazer007,
But can you plz explain me what is firmware and what are its advantages and how can I update it on my N70ME?
Thnx again
Mos

ghostrider
05-02-2008, 07:03
Thanks S t a n, didn't see that one comin'.
So what do I do now??
Shall I go for the 6500 slide or even it has the same problems??
How about the K850i ?? I am getting it for 425 USD here in U.A.E ( I converted the price into usd).

6500 slide :- USD 345.

I am worried about the keypad for 6500 slide, u know about its keypad gettin' scratched, right??
PLEASSE REPLY !!

ACErash
05-02-2008, 21:23
Ghostrider,

You're welcome, ...well i had personally no problems with 5610's Slider at all, infact it works as fine as it used to work at the first day i bought it, by the way, i've never came across with any software issues about the mp3 playback problems, mentioned at post #461 (by Stan), possibly my 5610 comes with a different firmware, so those problems might only happen in certain firmware versions.

PJ:
06-02-2008, 00:20
Ghostrider,

You're welcome, ...well i had personally no problems with 5610's Slider at all, infact it works as fine as it used to work at the first day i bought it, by the way, i've never came across with any software issues about the mp3 playback problems, mentioned at post #461 (by Stan), possibly my 5610 comes with a different firmware, so those problems might only happen in certain firmware versions.

What's yours by the way? :)

S t a n
06-02-2008, 18:36
possibly my 5610 comes with a different firmware, so those problems might only happen in certain firmware versions.
Above mentioned bugs (while mp3\aac playback: unpredictible reboots, cracking sound (clicks), jerks, while radio and video: cracking sound ((clicks)) were at 04.20 based 5610 that I've bought. Then I thought that NOKIA Care really cares about us and updated FW to 04.81. No effect, all bugs with me still!
Then I wrote report to Nokia Care http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222232 and their kind answer drives me crasy:
"Thank you for emailing Nokia Care.
With regard to your concern, please be assured that the Nokia 5610 Xpress Music undergo thorough testing and quality check to meet the manufacturers specification before marketing them to the consumers. Hence, there aren't any known concern with 5610. We suggest having the phone assessed by a qualified technician at the Nokia Care Point (NCP). This is because we are unable to physically assess the phone to determine its issue.
Please be advised that Forum Nokia is an open forum for all interested consumers. Nokia is unable to review the content posted by users on its site and is not responsible for their content. Nokia does not intervene with ongoing discussions. "
The answer is impressive, isn't it?.
ACErash
What version of firmware installed in your 5610?
Сheck it pls thru *#0000#
In what country your phone assembled (mine in Hungary) ?

S t a n
06-02-2008, 18:53
Thanks S t a n, didn't see that one comin'.
So what do I do now??
Shall I go for the 6500 slide or even it has the same problems??
How about the K850i ?? I am getting it for 425 USD here in U.A.E ( I converted the price into usd).
6500 slide :- USD 345.
You should say your criterias to your next phone.
If music oriented only - than look at Samsung i450-it offers better sound or may be look at Nokia N81. But as universal multimedia phone 5610 is the best. Have you ever heard about musicphone with enhanced photovideo features (3MP, AF, macro, dual LED flash, MP4 640*480@15 recording and MP4 640*480@30 playback)? Untill 5610 it was impossible. After 5610 it is impossible too this year at least. No one from SE, Motorola, Samsung and others can't beat 5610 while 2008 year. Theoretically. Because the bugs of 5610 ruine it's performance and advantages. And NOKIA (see above answer of Nokia Care) doesn't care about bugs at all. Therefore, they are not going to fix them. Shame on Nokia. And it's very pity.

As to 6500 vs 5610:
when I bought 5610 ($450) the 6500slide priced almost $600-700. But unlike 6500slide 5610 has dedicated audiochip, that theoretically gives it better sound in mp3 (practically only bugs). So you may try 6500, but I don't tested it and therefore I can't say nothing about bugs of 6500slide.

PJ:
06-02-2008, 19:19
So I bought the 5610 XpressMusic...

First thing, the quality of the construction is very good indeed.
Second, I still havent got any bugs at all.
Third and quite important, the microSD SDHC 8Gb is working just fine right now (with 5Gb of music in it).

The music quality is very good, specially if you use better headsets!

Camera is also very nice and the auto-focus is quite fast.

I'm just trying it and I've listened 45 minutes of music without any bug... I'll keep you updated about its stability :)

Firmware version: 04.81 (22/11/2007)

S t a n
06-02-2008, 19:33
I'm just trying it and I've listened 45 minutes of music without any bug... I'll keep you updated about its stability
1) I must say that even at 04.20 within 4 hrs I 've been happy (no reboots), but after upgrade to 04.81 my life (mp3) become the nightmare.
2) What brand and model of 8GB SDHC do you use?
3) Camera is good ONLY in good light conditions, Try to photo in low light conditions e.g. in your room and you ' ll be shocked with low quality shots.

1) I must say that even at 04.20 within 4 hrs I 've been happy (no reboots), but after upgrade to 04.81 my life (mp3) become the nightmare.
2) What brand and model of 8GB SDHC do you use?
3) Camera is good ONLY in good light conditions, Try to photo in low light conditions e.g. in your room and you ' ll be shocked with low quality shots.
4) the more hifi headset you will use, the more bugs you will hear (I use Philips HP910 ($130)
5) as mp3 player 5610 loose vs a noname mp3 player priced $30. So, does 5610 woth it as mp3? -absolutely NOT!

chlettn
06-02-2008, 19:39
S t a n, have you considered getting an exchange model? Yours seems to be a dud, quite obviously.

PJ:
06-02-2008, 19:46
1) I must say that even at 04.20 within 4 hrs I 've been happy (no reboots), but after upgrade to 04.81 my life (mp3) become the nightmare.
2) What brand and model of 8GB SDHC do you use?
3) Camera is good ONLY in good light conditions, Try to photo in low light conditions e.g. in your room and you ' ll be shocked with low quality shots.


4) the more hifi headset you will use, the more bugs you will hear (I use Philips HP910 ($130)
5) as mp3 player 5610 loose vs a noname mp3 player priced $30. So, does 5610 woth it as mp3? -absolutely NOT!

1) Still ok with mine
2) Sandisk
3) That's what to expect from a phone's camera, anyway it's a good camera
4) Maybe you have a faulty one?
5) Try to play a little with the equalizer, it helps.


Still no bugs or crashes :jump:

Note: I had a N81 wich was a superior device in terms of music quality, but the 5610 is not far away and it adds a good camera with AF (the thing that lacked in the N81 and made me sell it).

S t a n
06-02-2008, 20:11
4) Maybe you have a faulty one?
5) Try to play a little with the equalizer, it helps.
4. NO. The bugs are not headset type dependable.
5. It doesn not matter at all. The bugs are not EQ dependable. But they ARE (in my 5610)!
Shame on NOKIA!

PJ:
06-02-2008, 23:13
Well, good luck next time then :p

ghostrider
07-02-2008, 08:47
STAN, I don't have any criteria, just wanted one of these two (6500/5610) due to their multimedia greatness and all rounders.

A liitle of my observations recently--

On mobile-review.com, about 6500 slide
1)keypad -" Metal keys are quite rare guests on handsets, often it turns out to be a mere coating that is exposed to wear and tear "
2)cover (main body)- " The Slide’s metal quality is pretty good, but do keep in mind that it is prone to scuffs – we found that out already 2-3 weeks into use"
check this pic for scratches, look the pic showing the back of the phone...
open the attachment......


the review for 5610 is available on mobile-review.com
link- http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-5610-en.shtml
They didn't mention any problems with mp3 player..........
Checked user opinions on many websites about this phone,,
Ratio of people complaining is like 2:50
5610 - 280 Usd (in U.A.E.)
6500 slide- 350 Usd
Not much difference, but 5610 - 1gb micro sd; 6500 - 256 mb micro sd.
I like this rear part of 6500 (the camera side). But I ain't imppressed with the 5610's back. Otherwise, 5610's design is COOL!! :jump:
Also, blue version of 5610 ROCKS!! While closed, its full black, awesome!!

But 6500 will remain same (colours).
mobile-review -"Other trims won’t be rolled out for the 6500 slide."
Also, u don't get xpress music theme download for 6500 slide. this phone is classy...

Finally, the 5610............price/quality ratio is too good......
Will let u know my opinions once in hand.........buying as soon as possible..

PJ:
07-02-2008, 14:20
Here's an unedited photo I took indoors today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Madx/Imagem003.jpg

Not that bad, right? :)

Xtrasystolic
08-02-2008, 08:05
PJ:
Not bad, good phone there :D

Mine crashed a couple times while playing music, the slider's a little loose already. But sound quality through better inner ears is just divine, not to mention the VGA video.

S t a n
08-02-2008, 15:44
the review for 5610 is available on mobile-review.com
link- http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-5610-en.shtml
They didn't mention any problems with mp3 player.....Other trims won’t be rolled out for the 6500 slide.....
Well, have you read in this review about charging 5610 thru USB?
"Upon successful connection you can pick one of the following modes: USB Mass Storage, PC Studio, or modem mode. Also, the handset starts recharging regardless of mode you pick."
This is NOT truth (this option is available only for 6500 slide). Than compare the quality of camera shots 5610 vs 6500slide in the review - (stills) are different. So, I would not rely on that review.
Compare to another review and feel the difference:
http://eng.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=44
"An annoying glitch in 4.20 firmware turned the music playback duration test into not very catching game: after every 30-40 minutes of playback, the phones reloads, hereupon our test is interrupted. Though we tried to make use of another adapter, the problem remained."

csae2014
08-02-2008, 22:42
thanks S T A N.

there I've read, that the RDS-radio in 5610 (an dprobably in 5310, I guess) doesn't show the stations name. is it true? Can anyone confirm it? I hope I just misunderstood it...
'cos I don't really know what would the porpouse of the RDS implementation be (beside the automatic frequency-change).

PJ:
09-02-2008, 14:00
thanks S T A N.

there I've read, that the RDS-radio in 5610 (an dprobably in 5310, I guess) doesn't show the stations name. is it true? Can anyone confirm it? I hope I just misunderstood it...
'cos I don't really know what would the porpouse of the RDS implementation be (beside the automatic frequency-change).


The radio has RDS and it shows the station's name (when available), I just tried it :)

Still no crashes from my device, the only thing I noticed was a *click* when I was listening to some music exactly when I opened an aplication (a game), I guess that's nothing special, my N81 also did that.

S t a n
10-02-2008, 13:13
csae2014
PJ:
RDS is very simplified in 5610: it usually doesn't shows names of radiostations (my music centre does it always) and never - info that goes thru RDS such as: weather, time, song and artist name and so on. I insist once again that 5610' RDS is just marketing trick, because whithin 14 RDS radiostations in my city it catches ONLY a name of ONE RDS radistation. There is nothing to add. Compare to SonyEricsson Walkman-it's RDS realisation is much better.

only thing I noticed was a *click* when I was listening to some music exactly when I opened an aplication (a game),
Oh! Now U understand what I am talking about when I say about cracking sound and clicks, because such clicks (rare in your 5610) are present in mine 5610 in abnourmous quantity (unpredictible in time) = cracking sound. And my 5610 is not unique with such bugs -this confirmed by numerous reports in different forums and by different 5610 users.

PJ:
10-02-2008, 14:59
I cannot talk much about RDS cos I simply dont listen to radio anyway but I know that here in Portugal radio stations dont have such informations via RDS(sports, weather, etc), only their name and, for that, it worked just fine~.

Yes, I heard the *click* :D In my case it's not a big deal really and my media player still havent crashed after a few hours of listening to music in the 8Gb card.

In my previous replies I was not doubting what you wrote, I just found strange that there were so much problems with you device when I still havent found any deal-breaker in mine.

Hope that with future updates yours will work better or simply try to replace it :)


.........

Anyway, I just tried a little bit more of the phone and took some pictures (I'll upload them later) and what I can say is that the Auto-Focus is preety fast (very similar to the latest N95's firmware) and the picture's quality is also very good.

The messages' aplication is very user friendly too, much simplier than the S60 one and you can simply add pictures, sounds, etc very easily. The latest used contacts is also a very handy solution since most people only send sms/mms to a small group of contacts.

:)

Mweb
10-02-2008, 15:47
And my 5610 is not unique with such bugs -this confirmed by numerous reports in different forums and by different 5610 users.

Such as? links would be useful.

varsamakos
10-02-2008, 16:52
Hi !

These days I realize that there is one more difference between
blue and red 5610 ..

The back plastic in blue is too dark (black) while in the red one is more like grey colour ..

Check this out for yourself to make sure that this is true and its not just me ..

The difference is something more that noticable ..

Awesome_Aleks
10-02-2008, 21:15
You can see that on all the websites

but yes, it is true

varsamakos
11-02-2008, 01:33
I didnt know that before :)

PJ:
11-02-2008, 23:07
Here are a couple of unedited pictures I took with the phone:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Madx/Imagem006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Madx/Imagem011.jpg

varsamakos
11-02-2008, 23:14
Nice pics mate :)

tek_korsan
12-02-2008, 20:50
hi, Here Nokia 5610 Xpress Music's users photos in Turkey

Ac|D
12-02-2008, 20:54
Nice pics from the 5610 !

tek_korsan
12-02-2008, 20:54
hi , Here Nokia 5610 Xpress Music's users photos in Turkey (but not working insert image)


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3093/mf121122103yb7.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1881/grnt008vs0.jpg

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6130/grnt001on6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1700/grnt017gk6.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2372/grnt016lm8.jpg

and more... http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_20569779/tm.htm

thank you..... :D :D :D :D :D

PJ:
13-02-2008, 00:33
Thanx for sharing, those are great! :)

tek_korsan
13-02-2008, 10:10
not at all :) ........... forever 5610 XpressMUSİC............ :jump:

:D

S t a n
13-02-2008, 18:18
Such as? links would be useful.

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showpost.php?p=666522&postcount=461

Note, that I've sent to NOKIA not only these links. At first Nokia (Care) kept absolute ignoring of 5610 problems, but after I've sent them their NCP conclusion regarding my 5610 - boys and girls in Nokia looks like a little bit depressed - they have nothing to say vs bugs of 5610. At least in Russian 5610. that suppliied to Russia - the bugs are (reboots, clicks, cracking sound). What's interesting, is that the Russian Nokia Care admits the bugs and UK Nokia Care - does not admits. Marketing...

landlord
15-02-2008, 22:58
So I bought the 5610 XpressMusic...

First thing, the quality of the construction is very good indeed.
Second, I still havent got any bugs at all.

Likewise. According to some, my version should exhibit all sorts of shameful bugs and glitches but it seems to be working just fine. Though I will remember to avoid plugging in the charger whilst listening to music on an 8 GB SDHC card at the same time as receiving a text message whilst simultaneously managing my Bluetooth paired devices, though, just to be on the safe side :rotate:

S t a n
17-02-2008, 17:25
PJ:
landlord
Guys, in what country yours 5610 assemled and what is firmware version that is (according to your words) free from above mentioned bugs in yours 5610?
As to mine bugging 5610: Hungary, v. 04.20/04.81.

ghostrider
18-02-2008, 11:18
Uh guys, remember when i said i am gonna buy the 5610?
Well I don't know hoe to say this, but stan was right. CURSE THIS PHONE!!!
The mp3 bugs started out right after 15 minutes of playback.... In frustration, I immediately took the phone back to AXIOM and made them replace it with a nokia 6500 slide. And guess what? I got the BLACK version! This phone is simply amazing!! And it doesn't have any bugs (till now)......And i just love the black design.....
I have attached some pictures of my phone taken with a K750i's camera.......Hope you like it.
(sorry is picture quality is bad).

S t a n
19-02-2008, 16:22
The mp3 bugs started out right after 15 minutes of playback.... What bugs - described by me many times above reboots and cracking sound while mp3 playback? Firmware version was?...
PS I guess that the mp3 bugs in 5610\5310 Xpressmusic are due to dedicated "superwow" audiochip. 6500slide has no such chip-->no mp3 bugs. Paradox: if you wanna listen mp3 without frustrating - you shouldn't buy Xpressmusic 5*10.

landlord
21-02-2008, 20:58
PJ:
landlord
Guys, in what country yours 5610 assemled and what is firmware version that is (according to your words) free from above mentioned bugs in yours 5610?
As to mine bugging 5610: Hungary, v. 04.20/04.81.
Hungary, v4.20, O2-branded firmware (the only UK operator carrying the phone at the time).

Which? magazine (a consumer association publication in the UK) agrees that the 5610's sound quality was terrible, especially considering the phone's music emphasis. But I'm not yanking anyone's chain here, the quality of mine through some £30 Sennheisers is the best I've heard from a conventional mobile phone, and the stereo widening much more useful for poor-quality or monaural media than Sony's. I've rarely played it for more than two hours on the trot, and when I have, I've jumped around between tracks and rewound occasionally. Conversely, I find the 6300's player (generally thought to be fine, but nothing special) is pretty poor. Decent enough bass - given a clean signal - but otherwise flat, 'honky' up top and with a generous layer of hiss.

I should add that I have music encoded at 192 or 256 kbps, which is higher than usual...