View Full Version : HTC S710 (Vox)
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2006/12/13/htc-vox-smartphone-revealed/
* Microsoft Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone
* 2.4 inch, QVGA TFT LCD
* Dimensions 100 x 50 x 18 mm
* Memory: ROM 128 MB / 64 MB
* Wireless WAN
* TI OMAP 850, 200 MHz
* EDGE / GSM /GPRS quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
* (possibly) UMTS
* Bluetooth
* Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g
* Camera: 2 mega pixels
* Expansion: MicroSD
* Semi-automatic sliding QWERTY keyboard
I like it, although the lack of 3G doesn't exactly make it topnotch spec-wise... Oh, yeah, the screen is photoshopped on, but it's pretty certain that this device is for real.
Does anyone know a release date (Q1/Q2 next year?) and does anyone have any explanation why there's no D-pad or joystick? Badger? :p
HTC is, as usual, far behind with multimedia (2mpix cameras that doesn't beat a Nokia entry model, mostly lack of 3G, 65.535 colour screens)
the first review http://www.ferra.ru/online/phones/26857/
yeah..pretty ugly
i think htc has a lot of brains working for them
but no designers !!!!
why not make team with a designer? htc brings the hardware&software solution and the designer brings the form.
2 or 3mpx cammeras are now a standard.
i really don't understand why aren't they making devices with more multimedia.
infinity_gx
20-02-2007, 19:19
Mobile-Review.com will come up with the Vox review on Thursday
infinity_gx, very nice :)
I hope there also comes some interesting things in general about HTC market strategy and future roadmap, as we often see as an introduction in the reviews :)
Love the design and form factor, but have a hard time convincing myself this is really new, as it seems like a 1:1 copy of the 1? year old HTC Tornado hardware-wise - only added qwerty and WM6. Really not that much if you see what have happened with most of the other companies' line-ups since fall 2005.
I know HTC can pull something a lot more advanced out if they need to - let's hope Asus, Quanta, Gigabyte, Toshiba and all the rest at least try to give HTC a run for its money :)
I really like it! Too bad that the specs are not up to date. Keeping it small and equipping it with qwerty is really nice. Too bad Nokia didn't employ this form factor when designing the E70.
saliquincer
21-02-2007, 23:09
still low resolution cameras ... :down:
saliquincer, in my opinion the camera would be one of the last things they should improve in this kind of device - maybe throw in a flash so you can use it as a torch, but that's it.
I would rather see HSDPA, GPS and maybe even a screen with a higher resolution before a camera upgrade. Oh, make it thinner too, then upgrade the camera :p
If I'm not mistaken that is probably also what we are going to see - the successor will probably still have a non-AF 2 megapixel camera :p
Btw, the 3 megapixel camera on the HTC X7500 seems pretty ok though, so maybe there's light ahead for those who likes good cameras in HTC devices :)
MTM, I agree. Sure, a good camera is a nice feature but eventually you'll get tired of taking pictures with it. Equipping it with GPS, HSPDA, higher res screen is much more important.
Equipping it with GPS, HSPDA, higher res screen is much more important. Thats the HTC Wings... Later this year ;)
The VOX is a very nice device, smaller than most think - it fits very in the hand perfectly. I must admit the keyboard is not as easy to use as one would expect but after a week or so you will be used to the layout.
WM6 has great speed enhancments and makes the device very powerful.
I agree that HTC need to sort the camera situation, this will come before too long. My main issue with the cam is its in portrait mode not landscape. With most devices of this shape have used the volume buttons for zoom etc the VOX doesnt have this feature (yet ;) )
badger, does the Wings has higher than QVGA resolution? That would be a nice surprise. I guess the Wings will be their high-end smartphone device for 2007 - maybe along with the leaked flip phone (was it called Gerato?). I'm mostly into candybars or sliders, so the Wings is on my radar. The sports name slider sounds interesting, but only mid tier as you said. Can you give any hints on when we might see the Wings presented and/or released?
Btw, thanks for your updates, badger, I really appreciate them. It's really hard to find information about HTC's upcoming smartphones - most leaks seem to be about Pocket PC's (Professional edition, whatever we should call them now).
Wings is QVGA as far as I am aware... Yes, it will be the top end messsenger-style Standard device.
Not sure when it will launch. expect in the shops in time for christmas.
So far HTC (and WM devices in general) have been very business focused, this is mainly due to the cost & integration with Exchange. This will change this year, with the WindowsLive services being an option for operators (some will and have remove it from WM6 devices :() we will see these devices becoming more and more appealing for the standard joe in the highstreet. PushEmail from Hotmail, always on MSN and easy Sync with Windows Media player? Not to mention the built in GPS and the user of Windows Live Search...
Ahh, Christmas... I had hoped a little sooner, but no idea in rushing when there's no need to for HTC, I guess. The Vox/S710 is very tempting right now, but the obvious lack of cutting edge features compared to similar-sized devices is holding me back. I don't get how it have gained 35 g in weight compared to HTC Tornado. 140 g is pretty much for such a small phone. It must feel really heavy in the hand?
No plans for a high-end plain candybar similar to the HTC Tornado? Two candybars, one of them being a low-end device, in 1? years isn't much, and I know I'm not the only one thinking this.
Looking forward to the more consumer-oriented way HTC and Windows Mobile is going, though. It's definitely more to my personal liking :)
I can see why some operators will remove services like Live Messenger and Push-email from Hotmail if they think they will make more money on people using e.g. SMS texting instead. I guess some of these things can be fixed with a ROM upgrade, but most users will not do this, of course.
still low resolution cameras ... :down:
And what about the 65.535 colour screen. That hasn't changed for a very long time. But Windows Mobile can't handle any more, as it would be even more memory-consuming :lol:
badger, I do have the same feeling. Used it now for some minutes and must say it is really ok. Really small and for a price of 399 Euros. That is not much!
MR
Badger, MR
What would you two say comparing E61i and series s60 with upcoming S730 Wings and WM6?
I need a new smartphone since P990 disappointed me big time (returned it). I've come to the conclusion that I can live without TS - qwerty is however essential. Quality is also very important, no creaky plastics. I know its difficult comparing two different platforms (S60/symbian vs WM6) but I really like to know what differs these two from each other and wich one is more capable (for a university student that needs a good agenda and everything thats comes with that, and also have WLAN access) - you don't have to be 100% objective, just want to hear your opinions.
Thanks guys!
//A
I'm not quite sure weather to buy Vox in a couple of weeks or wait for Wings. Some sources say Wings will be releases july. This is cruel, presenting a cool phone and releasing an even cooler a few months later.
I don't even know if july is a realistic date.
aLx, quite difficult because the user experience is also something you would incorporate. The two are really different such because of the fact that the E61i does not have a slide keyboard and the S730 does. It makes the S730 more compact in its design and more a phone.
Both serve as a good messaging device with PIM functionalities. I think you should use them and find out which one suites you the best. Also check out if you like the square design of the E61i and the slider concept of the S730.
MR
MR, thanks mate!
chiron, Why not wait for wings - 3G, faster processor, GPS to name a few improvements. But I was hoping that Wings would be equipped with the upcoming WM 'photon' ( I know, wishful thinking :P ).
I was really looking forward for Vox, and now I'll have to wait 3-4 months longer...
Hopefully there will be some "real" pictures soon.
AvWijk,
...UPDATE: The camera is simply outstanding! The viewfinder refresh rate and clarity I have never seen on a mobile device like this, and the actual picture quality is the same. I have NEVER seen a 2 megapixel camera spit out images quite like these! Take that Nokia! Will post sample shots soon....
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/02/26/unboxing-htc-vox/
stop with the i love nokia comments
AvWijk,
...UPDATE: The camera is simply outstanding! The viewfinder refresh rate and clarity I have never seen on a mobile device like this, and the actual picture quality is the same. I have NEVER seen a 2 megapixel camera spit out images quite like these! Take that Nokia! Will post sample shots soon....
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/02/26/unboxing-htc-vox/
stop with the i love nokia comments
OMG. Do I have to explain again? You never saw the snapshots anyway? You're jacking yourself off with the tought the camera pictures might be better than an entry-level Nokia N70, for example?
HTC uses most of the time the same sort of lenses, I think the camera quality is on par with the Qtek S200. Not bad for a average phone.. But the Vox still ain't a mass-market multimedia device, HTC focusses on bussiness devices.
I know you think you're a bright and love to reply on almost everything I write here, but do please comment on post #16.
AvWijk, according to badger WM6 can handle more now.
Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have a device with 24-bit colours and 20 MB free RAM or one with 16-bit colours and 50 MB free RAM? I know which one I'd pick :)
S720, the CDMA version of S710 has been released. Looks a bit like the upcoming S730...
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-18.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-13.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-12.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-16.jpg
S720 (to the left) next to Tytyn
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-02.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-14.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-21.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-02.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-03.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/htc-s720-19.jpg
Sources
http://about.telus.com/cgi-bin/media_news_viewer.cgi?news_id=811&mode=2
http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/newsitem_rss.php?id=8714
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/htc-vox-and-htc-s720-gallery-247574.php
Enjoy!
(P)Review on MoDaCo with a video of it, too: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=253461
S710 looks great, S720 is really ugly. I just hope the S730 will be more attractive...
AvWijk, according to badger WM6 can handle more now.
Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have a device with 24-bit colours and 20 MB free RAM or one with 16-bit colours and 50 MB free RAM? I know which one I'd pick :)
Depends on how much ram is installed anyway and how much ram you are going to use :) For example, WM needs 5 MB for an average program and Symbian 500 KB. It doesn't matter for resolutions like 176x220, but it's noticable on 320x240. I used an MDA Compact (Qtek S100, HTC Magician), but I just kept my default theme because all themes would come out strange coloured. Only in picture mode photos and wallpapers came out well.
OMG. Do I have to explain again? You never saw the snapshots anyway? You're jacking yourself off with the tought the camera pictures might be better than an entry-level Nokia N70, for example?
HTC uses most of the time the same sort of lenses, I think the camera quality is on par with the Qtek S200. Not bad for a average phone.. But the Vox still ain't a mass-market multimedia device, HTC focusses on bussiness devices.
I know you think you're a bright and love to reply on almost everything I write here, but do please comment on post #16.
Im just copy pasting something, its a discussion forum, therefore people come with arguments and start to discuss, if you don't want to discuss, move to an other forum..
I think I'm bright? I just like to discuss with you.. lol
Excellent Review of S710 by Coolsmartphone (http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article715.html)
Hey Guys!
I am new on this forum.
I just want to share my personal experience of purchasing Smartphone as recently purchased HTC S710 (http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/s710-quad-band-edge-enabled-windows-mobile-smartphone-s710-p-1747.html) and found it really good.
Look at image of HTC S710 (http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/s710-quad-band-edge-enabled-windows-mobile-smartphone-s710-pi-1747.html) (Vox)
marwan74
20-05-2007, 22:50
i sww th phone today an dloved itm, snd thid id coming out of someone tha hates windows nobile phones and PDSs. so what do yoo guyd think of? goodor dad? i specially lie the keyboard, it feeld betu compy.
is the phone like symbian phones? or is it as fast likr sony ericsson phones?(like the k800)...also what res and fps does it record vifdep at?
thsaks! im thinking of getting one!
thought? thought eh camera sucks! ;(
i sww th phone today an dloved itm, snd thid id coming out of someone tha hates windows nobile phones and PDSs. so what do yoo guyd think of? goodor dad? i specially lie the keyboard, it feeld betu compy.
is the phone like symbian phones? or is it as fast likr sony ericsson phones?(like the k800)...also what res and fps does it record vifdep at?
thsaks! im thinking of getting one!
thought? thought eh camera sucks! ;(
It's a Nice phone with Qwerty keyboard & it's running on Wm 6.0 , & it's lacks Ts,I can't say wheather it is fast or slow Get read some reviews u'll know it ,It's record video in 176 x 144 resolution !
soooo, i got my S710 on friday, and after some days of playing and experimenting with the phone, i'd like to share some thoughts on this phone with you...
and please forgive my not so good english, but i'm kinda more used to german... ^^
first i want to mention that before the S710 i never had or used a WM device, i was a total symbian guy (and still am, but let's talk about that later ^^). my 3 previous devices were the N70, the N80 and the E61, so if i'm comparing something i'm probably refering to one of these phones.
BUILD QUALITY
the build quality is excellent, the keys on the front of the phone are very good (kind of 6600 like if you still remember these days...), and the navi-button works like a charm (soft, yet "clicky"). the layout of the answer / deny call buttons is a bit confusing in the beginnning, but you get hold of that in some days of use...
the case is built with that rubber plastic, which is very nice to touch and very NOT slippy. the downside is that you always see fingerprints on your phone, even if you never touch it with fatty fingers (don't show the mobile around if you are in a restaurant or a dinner, or you'll be cleaning it for 5 minutes afterwards... ^^).
the slide mechanism is very, very, very good built. for the first phone with this new concept to hit the market, it's of outstanding quality (i had a 6260 for a short time, was a new concept too, and the build quality was miserable). the slider is spring loaded, and for my taste the spring is adjusted just right, you don't need to push it too hard, but it isn't loose either.
the qwertz (or qwerty) keyboard is bigger than i thought and the keys have like no travel and click in instantly. once you got used to that you can type a lot faster than on the E61 with it's "soft" keys.
the screen is big and bright and i think for a WM device quite good. as a previous E61 user (2.8" 16mil colours) not so impressive though...
FEATURES
the feature set is nice, but not so impressive after all. you can re-read all the features on lots of mobile phone webpages, so i'm just going to focus on things that seem rather important to me.
first of, no 3g. bummer. but after some time of use, i can tell, if you need the phone for e-mails, IM and some occasional web browsing, then you'll be just fine with EDGE. if you are a mobile TV user (who uses this crap?), then you may want to wait for a 3g version.
WiFi is good (reception is better than on E61).
The camera is very good for a 2Mpx cam, but i really miss a LED flash (also because it can sometimes be a handy lightsource). Video on the other hand is terrible (N70 does a better job there).
i didn't look at the MP3 player, because i'm a ipod user, but i think it should be ok. the speaker is ok, but not better than the E61's.
SOFTWARE
as a symbian user i haven't made friends with WM6.0 and i don't think that this is ever going to happen. i don't want to get into detail, but symbian definetly kicks ass (damn, even Symbian is faster than WM6.0, do i have to say more?).
there are only three things i want to mention here.
first off, the web browser. for anyone who has used one of the recent S60 web-browsers, this browser is an insult. it just sucks compared to the symbian browser, there's nothing that is better, but everything is worse... :(
the e-mail client is (as long as you use standard POP emailing) on par with the E61's. it's good in doing it's job, and html emails look really pretty.
the coolest feature is the full implementation of windows live (search, email and MSN) into the os. you can display them on your home screen (you can have a chart where it says like: "Messenger: xx Contacts Online"), and MSN is a breeze. it works almost as good as the desktop version, and with the phone held in landscape orientation and the qwertz keyboard slid out, it's really, really cool.
CONCLUSION
so, that pretty much was everything i wanted to say about this phone. the bottom line is that my geeky / techie side doesn't like this phone (it's secretly waiting for something similar from nokia with HSDPA and a 5Mpx Cam ^^), but style wise this phone rocks. plus if you don't bother about the lack of 3g, it's a perfect phone for the young generation who wants to sms, e-mail, IM and just have fun. or something like this... :rolleyes:
EDIT
I use a 2gig SanDisk card with the phone and the battery lasts 1.5 to 2 days if you use it moderatly. otherwise you have to charge it every night...
marwan74
22-05-2007, 21:43
thanks para, i too found the phone to be extremely slow! very shocking! :(
do you have any camera sample pics or where i could find any? i gotta admit the only thing i like about the phone is the sliding keyboard and it's design(710) the user interface felt way too bland and unuser friendly.
thanks for the review, for now my N95 dstroys ans exceeds the HTC 710(thank god i didn't but it)
one more thing, i noticed the S710 was tooooooo slow! what a shame!
thanks para, i too found the phone to be extremely slow! very shocking! :(
one more thing, i noticed the S710 was tooooooo slow! what a shame!
Thats why you wait for S730
thanks para, i too found the phone to be extremely slow! very shocking!
do you have any camera sample pics or where i could find any? i gotta admit the only thing i like about the phone is the sliding keyboard and it's design(710) the user interface felt way too bland and unuser friendly.
thanks for the review, for now my N95 dstroys ans exceeds the HTC 710(thank god i didn't but it)
one more thing, i noticed the S710 was tooooooo slow! what a shame!
the sliding keyboard is the only reason i bought the phone...
the user interface is plain bullshit, no wonder Symbian outsells WM...
i thought about buying the N95, but after the N80 (i had one of the first units...) i thought it would be better not to buy the next "mega uber smartphone" from nokia... but clearly, the S710 is not about features, more about the style (finally you can get that glam' sidekick style without having to carry one of these with you... ^^). and i have to admit, the S710 is the first phone i bought not because of the specs, but simply because i liked it... ,-)
and yes the S710 is too slow, but i hope future fw releases help...
pic provided below (the light situation totaly sucks, sorry). i think it's a bit better than the N70, but not as goos as the N80 (with new firmware).
EDIT: removed old pic and added two more adequate samples (theres def. something wrong with the colours, see keyboard in the first picture or bushes in the second).
lucaluca
11-06-2007, 01:30
otherwise you have to charge it every night...
every night!?? oh my god... i think that is awful, i charge my phones (about) once a week... (the best phone when it's out of juice it's just... useless)
(...) the web browser. for anyone who has used one of the recent S60 web-browsers, this browser is an insult. it just sucks compared to the symbian browser (...)
am i mistaken or is the opera browser available for BOTH symbian (s60) platform AND wm5/6? (or you mean there other browsers for s60? ;);) )
every night!?? oh my god... i think that is awful, i charge my phones (about) once a week... (the best phone when it's out of juice it's just... useless)
I have lots* of devices and most of them do not last more than a working day - Normally change devices for the evening.
With always on Email & Messenger not to mention the calls, its no wonder that my battery is needing to be changed often.
lucaluca
11-06-2007, 10:30
With always on Email & Messenger not to mention the calls, its no wonder that my battery is needing to be changed often.
Yes.:)
I was just saying that in my experience (which has been mostly 'normal' phones with small screens...) battery life was always few days, and it is hard (for me) to imagine to have to charge it every night... but then I also don't make a lot of voice calls, it's probably one of the reasons...;)
But you have to agree, that battery life (both talk time & standby time, (personally) don't care 'bout listening-to-music-time)) is important in a mobile device. (may it be mobile phone or pocket pc phone).
can you see youtube videos on it?
mastra, not directly from the usual YouTube site. There is a mobile version of YouTube, which should let this (and most other mobiles) see YouTube videos:
http://m.youtube.com/
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