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Draak
23-11-2003, 20:43
SonyEricsson face another problem,this time with Carl-seiss.
Carl-zeiss produce for lens for SE and Sony,it is posble that SE no 1.3 megapixel cam for the european market.

SonyEricsson have not a agreement for this matter.
Damn this is another dispoint for SE.

bart
23-11-2003, 22:39
how says SE will use carl-seiss?

Draak
23-11-2003, 23:02
A Guy,he was very convince about it.

Kiansom
24-11-2003, 00:56
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

-The Andyman-
24-11-2003, 05:40
lol @ SE

doviettung
24-11-2003, 06:39
Hey guys, do u got some picts of this phone
i only see the SE T630

sebset
24-11-2003, 08:20
I think SE should buy camera Modules from Samsung now :D ;)

http://mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4372

ACErash
24-11-2003, 08:23
lol lol ...
as i saw the live pictures of T630... the camera is still dark and death just like T610 after all ...the only imporovement is the 640*480 pictures... which is at least better than nothing...
but i have no clue about T650 .. i really like to see any pics of it...

so.. its cam gonna be same as T630?

saliquincer
24-11-2003, 08:35
these are just rumours .... waiting for offcial announcement ! ....

Kiansom
24-11-2003, 09:23
here comes all the SE-haters......hehe
i've said this b4, u either 'like' or 'hate' SE......

Kiansom
24-11-2003, 09:24
but............pls w8

Schizopernic
24-11-2003, 10:05
hm... so this is the T650 without 1.3Megapixel cam that will own Nokia 6230 ? :) :) :)

-The Andyman-
24-11-2003, 11:14
Schizopernic

:D :D :D


Kiansom

i dont love SE but i sure dont hate them

Ghibli
24-11-2003, 14:59
So much for the all-conquering T650.;)
It might even have the same camera as the T630!:D

jack087
24-11-2003, 15:39
this are spekulations with a never ending story, just wait till the press release - > remember: every one said that the p900 will have a 1,3mp cam

DUNGA
24-11-2003, 16:32
6600 is just a facelift of 3650, rather ridiculous. And slower operating system. Nokia and SE should wake up.

McKinley
25-11-2003, 00:14
A great opportunity for all SE haters or half SE haters to laugh... but I don't
want to believe in this statement for now. I will wait for the the official announcement.
Keep on laughing all Nokia lovers.

-The Andyman-
25-11-2003, 06:10
McKinley

i will :D :D D

nah just joking but if the T650 dosent have 1.3 mp camera wat else will it have that T610 does not have,will it have SD/MMC or MS duo or sumthing???

Ed
27-11-2003, 12:23
Originally posted by McKinley
but I don't
want to believe in this statement for now. I will wait for the the official announcement.



Yes, lets all wait for the press release, or at least some dodgy pics to appear.

Mister T
29-11-2003, 22:25
carl-zeiss and se, ok can someone please give me some facts like the offical link to this, i personally think this is smelly dirty old bullshit,
give me a break carl zeiss making lenses for phones yeah i can see it now two engineers at carl zeiss talking:
1.e:hey what do we have do today?
2.e: umm some lenses for the new f828 you know the new 8mp camera with 8x zoom and some lense for t610.
1.e: lenses for t610? that's a hard job let's get to it!

if you ask me this is just bullshit that's just like me saying: oh no nokia won't produce anymore mobiles, they have lost a contract with logitech for their joysticks!
omfg: carl zeiss produces very expensive lense for top cameras from sony and some other brands and you are saying that it do lense for se?!?!?

they don't even do lenses for the 2mp pda camera and you think that it do lense for a 0.3 cmos cameras from se?!?!?!?!?!?!?

i don't know i think this is pure 100% bullshit, even eldar stated it has a mp camera!!

Draak
29-11-2003, 22:36
To Mister T:

I have only hear about it from a guy,he claim that SE no licentie or agreement from Carl/zeiss.

Mister T
29-11-2003, 22:53
take a look at the car zeiss page and you will see that they do lense for only ALPA, ARRI, Contax, Hasselblad, Rollei and Sony , and do you see Sony Ericsson in here?!!?!?! and that guy was right that se doesn't have an agreement they never had one!!!
btw: lense aren't connected with mp i hope you know that......

Draak
29-11-2003, 22:55
Mister have you a link for me?

Ghibli
30-11-2003, 03:18
If Sony uses Carl Zeiss, then SE does. It's much cheaper for SE to use Sony parts and accessories.

Mister T
30-11-2003, 11:15
here is the link: http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B58B9?Open

btw: @ghibli carl zeiss makes one of the most expensive lenses on the world so i doubt that it would be cheaper......

Draak
30-11-2003, 12:00
Thanks Mister.

McKinley
30-11-2003, 14:39
Mister T

It doesnt matter if they make one of the most expensive lenses in the world.
They want to earn money and they are producing lenses for products the believe in.

Take a look at the Italian design company Pininfarina.
They have designed everything from Ferraris to Samsung SGH-N400 and Door-handles.

Stop being Mister Know it all.
:mad: :down:

Mister T
30-11-2003, 19:45
look i'm not mister know it all but and i can be wrong on this one and I'm really curios if this is true i personally don't believe it

btw: i think you have made a very bad example, i mean that's a design company not an actual manafacturer,
take a look at their website and you will see that it's
very unlikely that carl zeiss would make lenses fore

I personally think this is just like ferrari making motors for fiat but ok........you are maybe right i don't know about this things but i looked at their offical websites:
SE, Sony, Carl Zeiss and i didn't find anything related to se and c-z lenses,
i'm going to mail se and ask em if this is true but as i said i very much doubt it
take a look at c-z website and you will see that they are a very specific company that does only extreme quality optics......

McKinley
01-12-2003, 00:51
Pininfarina is some kind of a manufacture.
They design products which is some kind of service they do for other companies.

Like Carl Zeiss, they make lenses for other companies even if the companies could make their own lenses for their cameras or whatever.
This is some kind of service to other companies as well.

They are both experts at their things and therefor they are hired by companies.

I hope you post the answer here when you get reply from SE

Mister T
07-12-2003, 19:46
ok here's the answer from se , as usual very good and you leran alot from them

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Customer Care Centre.

In regards to your question, due to company policy unfortunantly i can give out this sort of information.
If you need to contact us for further assistance please call 08705 237 237.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.

For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at www.sonyericsson.com


oh well back to guessing..............

Draak
07-12-2003, 20:20
Policy,i see nothing special?????

Mister T
08-12-2003, 01:59
I don't know what policy....I guess that the guys at the customer service don't know...... :D

lmk
16-12-2003, 02:01
Originally posted by Draak
SonyEricsson face another problem,this time with Carl-seiss.
Carl-zeiss produce for lens for SE and Sony,it is posble that SE no 1.3 megapixel cam for the european market.

SonyEricsson have not a agreement for this matter.
Damn this is another dispoint for SE.

One of the funniest thing I've ever read. Do you really thing the toy camera, even 1.3 meg, of any mobile phone is a real camera?

Do you know what is a Carl Zeiss lens? That is a proffessional optical lens already. Sony only uses Carl Zeiss lens for its very advanced cameras, such as CyberShot DSC-F717 (5x zoom/5.2 meg) or higher. Even the real digital camera like my CyberShot DSC-P72, 3.2meg, does use only normal Sony zoom lens. Same to Sony video cameras.

A webcam-like camera in those mobile phones doest not need a real lens, even a small hole could do the job well. If they would produce a "mobile phone" with a 0.6-kg 10x-zoom lens that makes proffessional photos, then that mobile phone would have a Carl Zeiss lens.

Silly thing! You should know what you want to tell first.

McKinley
16-12-2003, 03:24
lmk

I don't think you understand what lenses are good for and it would definitely not work all to well with a hole.

Mister T
16-12-2003, 18:39
@imk: well did you read the whole thread because me for instance already told that, but i agree with, in my opinion there's no chance in this thread being true
@mckinley: he probably didn't meant it, i think he meant it like this :
whoa that mobile phone is big as a titanic!
and then you would say :
do you even know how big is the titanic?
:D

and he has got a point carl zeiss make one of the finnest lenses on the world, I mean only few companies use them, like hasselblad which is on of the most profesional camera manafacturers on the world, and he is correct even sony doesn't use carl zeiss lenses on their medium quality cameras, take a look at f828 and a p12, both are from sony but only the semi-profesional uses carl zeiss lense,

and as i said before i too think that this thread is just a big pile of bullshit, a guy is claiming that se uses c-z lenses, and when you ask him how did he found out that, he says:
a guy told me....
oh cmon......

McKinley
17-12-2003, 01:01
Mister T

Yes, maybe you are right
Titanic?!
:D

Mister T
17-12-2003, 14:54
yeah because my name is tit :D