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Updated HTC Product Roadmap (info from O2 and Dopod):
1st Model - HTC Universal (known as Xda Exec, Dopod 900, MDA Pro, SPV M5000, Jasjar). The only model in this list with VGA display (640x480 pixels).
2nd Model - HTC Prodigy and Wizard (also known as Xda Mini Pro, Dopod 838)
3rd Model - HTC Tornado Noble (i-Mate SP5, Dopod 577w, Qtek 8310)
4th Model - HTC Tornado Tempo (i-Mate SP5m, Dopod 586w, Xda Phone, Qtek 8300)
5th Model - HTC Galaxy (Dopod P100, i-Mate PDA-N, Qtek G100)
6th Model - HTC Prophet (previously known as HTC Athena & also misunderstood as Xda Atom) Specs: Edge, GPRS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 416Mhz Intel, FM Radio, 2 Megapixels
Camera with Flash.
Form Factor: Similar size as Magician but Slimmer.
7th Model - HTC Hermes
Specs: UMTS, Edge, GPRS, HSDPA, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi b/g, 416Mhz Intel, 2.1 Megapixels
Camera with Flash, QWERTY keyboard, one Video Cam (front).
Form Factor: Similar size as HTC Wizard, also side Slide QWERTY,
Video Cam at top right corner in front).
http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000050588.JPG
8th Model - HTC StarTrek (SmartPhone)
Specs: Edge, GPRS, Bluetooth, 2 Megapixels Camera w Flash, TI OMAP.
Form Factor: Like RAZR V3, Clamshell design, very Slim.
9th Model - HTC Breeze (SmartPhone)
Specs: UMTS, Edge, GPRS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, 2 Megapixels Camera w Flash, T9
Pad, one Video Cam (front), TI OMAP.
Form Factor: Just like Tornado, with video camera in front.
10th Model - HTC Muse
Specs: UMTS, Edge, GPRS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, 2 Megapixels Camera w Flash, Only
Music Button, 240 by 240, one Video Cam (front), Intel 416MHz, 4GB ROM.
Form Factor: It Looks very similar to Sony NW-HD5 (a MP3 player from Sony).
Even the Buttons look a like, but 240 x 240 screen, very Slim design.
Source : http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4473.html
HTC Muse is far more interesting and it looks something like this
http://www.myprice.com.cn/products/pro_images/95365.jpg !
System Error
25-10-2005, 11:08
when is the hermes coming out? also does it have 2 cams, or just one in the front for 3G?
Yeah it has TWO cams
HTC Hermes (Pocket PC Phone)
Specs: UMTS, EDGE, GPRS, HSDPA TBD, GSM Quadband, 320 by 240 QVGA, Bluetooth,
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, 416Mhz Intel Processor, 2.1 Megapixel
Camera with Flash, QWERTY keyboard, one Video Cam (front).
ROM and RAM are yet to confirm
Release date (approx.): May 2006
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/htc-hermes.jpg
System Error
25-10-2005, 13:52
Yeah it has TWO cams
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/htc-hermes.jpg
is it going to be similar size as the JAM/K JAM or as big as the PDA2K(which is way too big)
iron_mike010
02-11-2005, 08:47
chokia,
u stilldidnt get the universal?! otherwise you should consider the k-jam, its wicked.
seriously the kb and wifi are just wonderful!!
Oh man congrats with your new "wicked" device, you should write a review on that.
Anyway, since the chinese are still weak in design department, im still waiting for them to revamp universal's look like what the japanese have done to UX50(see below pic)
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat3_1.jpg
Aint that fabulous for a 3G PDA phone!
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat3_1_2.gif
And its camera position and functionality for a Camera, Video call and plenty of room for Optical Zoom folded optic lense.
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_3_2.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_3_3.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_3_4.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_3_5.jpg
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_5_2.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_8_2.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_11_2.jpghttp://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat1_10_2.jpg
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-UX50/Images/feat4_1.jpg
chokia, This is not a 3G phone. its a palm powered clie.
dansus72
03-11-2005, 03:32
HTC MUSE. I WANT ONE OF THESE BABYS..... AND I WANT IT NOW!!
:2jump:
Q2 06, not fair.
badger,
I know what they are.
dansus72,
All the above pictures on this page are not HTC Muse, please dont be mistaken.
dansus72
03-11-2005, 15:10
yeh i know, i just want one. :love:
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/htc-muse.jpg
HTC Hermes is very appealing IMHO. I'm really interested in getting a Qtek 9100 but the lack of 3G (no EDGE support on my network) and block/letterrecognizer on the Swedish version makes me wait for SE P990i instead.
iron_mike010
06-12-2005, 18:24
when can we expect the hermes btw?
If i remember right, according to HTC roadmap of 2006 (which already been ordered to remove by HTC lawyers in most mobile sites), Hermes will be available 3rdQ, and Muse at 4th.
WOW, i like Muse & StarTrek
hope they add decent cameras
There is also a HTC trinity.. its the replacment to the Prophet.
Expect more and more HTC devices with GPS ;)
Im already excited Hermes and Muse are 3.5G (devices with HSDPA 8-10Mbps) compared to 3G only 384Kbps
doviettung
30-01-2006, 18:38
I like to have a PDA with hard-disk, if not the PDA should have the possibility to turn off completely, b'cause turn on the flight mode is only close the phone function and not the PDA function. I'm using O2 mini and i'm glad to have it, but the news models have only some bonus, no big different, so in my opinion, when there r something very very special, i'll change my PDA.... LOL
chokia, Hermes is not HSDPA only 3G and will be on the market April/May.. ;)
Hermes is HSDPA phone check out the spec on top of this page.
Even in most site confirmed it has for instance
http://www.digitaltechnews.com/news/2005/11/htc_muse_htc_he.html
But HTC confirmed that their HSDPA phones will only be shipped in H2 2006
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/25/htc_confirms_hsdpa_plan/
chokia, I know the text you copyed and pasted states that is will/might have HSPDA, this is incorrect. The device which is being ranged and released by certain networks is a variant of Hermes and is based on the 3G chipset. The HSDPA devices do not apear on the roadmap until the end of the year.
So far HTC only have one 3G device on the market - The variants of the hermes will be the second to hit the market.
Also you have to think - How many HSPDA networks will be live in H2 2006? What good are devices without networks and customer base to use them??
;)
iron_mike010
01-02-2006, 12:17
badger, so the official release date for Hermes is somewhere in april/may? does that mean we shouldnt expect until after june?
because i cant wait to get it to replace my wizard, because the thing is too damn slow! i dont know what the problems are but it sure could use some replacement!
Big advantage of Hermes over Wizard is the Intel processor as opposed to weedy TI one.
badger,
So many news Hermes with HSDPA, i wonder why you keep telling that it is without. And by the way I-mate will name it Imate JASJAM
We know JAM stands for Jim Andrew Morrisson (http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/events/3gsm2006/3gsm-jim-morrison.jpg), CEO of imate :)
3GSM 2006 coverage: HTC Hermes news
February 14, 2006 [Pocket PC phone]
HTC Hermes looks exactly like HTC Wizard - a slide out keyboard on the left side and quite small size. One thing is different though: it also supports UMTS and HSDPA and 3G video calling ...
Here come the news about HTC Hermes:
at press conference of T-Mobile, where Rene Obermann was speaking some people managed to make the first real life photos of HTC Hermes (it looks exactly like HTC Wizard - the keyboard is with keys without spaces among them - like it is in Cingular 8125). Apparently T-Mobile will release it around May 2006.
we have interviewed today Jim Morrison, CEO of imate (audio recording and summary of this interview coming later), and he informed us that HTC Hermes will be sold by imate as "i-mate JAS JAM" and will come to market around July 2006.
At last times are known, when first small Windows Mobile phones with 3G/UMTS support will be released. Yes, small pocketable 3G phones powered by Windows Mobile will be available this summer...
Source : http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4917.html
badger,
So many news Hermes with HSDPA, i wonder why you keep telling that it is without. And by the way I-mate will name it Imate JASJAM
We know JAM stands for Jim Andrew Morrisson (http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/events/3gsm2006/3gsm-jim-morrison.jpg), CEO of imate :)
Source : http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4917.html
Nice indeed, in your quote the msmobile editor/writer also states that some people made pictures of the (tmobile version of) HTC Hermes. Where can I find them? I don't want those crummy old pictures from way back in november...
HTC Hermes made its debut appearance with the new look at 3GSM!
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_1_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_2_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_3_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_4_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_5_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_6_ridimensionare.jpg
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/2006/02/Esclusiva--Ecco-l-HTC-Hermes-/Hermes_7_ridimensionare.jpg
It has wizard's keyboard and these specs (cut and paste fr PPCitalia) :-
-Sistema operativo Windows Mobile 5 con AKU 2.0
-Supporto GSM/GPRS Quad Band e UMTS/HSDPA
-Processore Samsung S3C2442 a 300 MHz
-128 MB di ROM e 64 MB di RAM
-Display TFT LCD da 2,8" con risoluzione QVGA a 65.536 colori
-Connessione Bluetooth 2.0
-Connessione Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
-Fotocamera primaria da 2,1 Megapixel con FlashLed e modalit? Macro
-Fotocamera secondario CIF per videochiamate
-Slot di espansione microSD
-Batteria da 1350mAh
Source : www.pocketpcitalia.com
philipp81
16-02-2006, 17:00
Here is another photo of the Hermes http://www.xonio.com/news/news_18701551.html?tid1=7400&tid2=0
The text says, that it will be sold in 2Q/2006 by T-Mobile.
philipp81,
cool!
thanks for sharing and welcome to Mobile-Review :)
chokia, thank you. I think I like the qwerty on HTC Wizard better... :-/
Will the 300Mhz Samsung procesor mean that Skype for Pocket PC 2.0 will not run? Not sure about the new QWERTY.
The Fujitsu Seimens Loox T830 looks very attractive with built in GPS and 416Mhz processor.
satsuma,
Its been reported that Skype 2.0 required at least 400mhz cpu. So i guess you know the answer.
The keyboard looks like the same technology as on the Universal - which is good news. But the RAM is still not enough for WM5 - why plan a device knowing that it does not have sufficient user memory? The SE P990 will give the user 80MB while with HTC devices we get at most 30MB!
Q. Why does XDA II have more RAM memory than XDA Exec?
A. You shouldn't compare RAM across the different operating systems as they use RAM very differently. The difference is as follows;
Windows Mobile 5.0 devices use RAM for running programs only.
Windows Mobile 2002/2003 devices split RAM memory in half - between running programs and user data storage (emails, contacts, pictures, videos, Word documents etc.)
So XDA II and XDA Exec use roughly the same amount of RAM for running programs. However XDA Exec stores user data in the Flash ROM memory, as part of the "persistant storage" feature of Windows Mobile 5.0.
It should also be remembered that more RAM impacts battery consumption, so more RAM would require a larger battery.
mweb6161 ,
I cant remember when i asked that LOL.
Anyway, do you know that HTC's 2.0 megapixel camera module now improved? Even some said its comparable with K750i.
People in PPCSG (www.ppcsg.com) are comparing 2.0mp cams in Atom (made by Quanta) and Dopod818pro / Imate Jamin. The later's cam produces way better images than the former, they even compare with K750i.
My point is, Hermes can be a good consideration if you wish to have smaller, faster (its 3.5G=HSPDA + wifi-g) and better camera (2.1mp) than your pride possession O2 XDA EXEC. :)
marwan74
20-02-2006, 19:00
is Hermes as thick as the K Jam? also, does it have the same 2 Megapixel camera quality like the JAMin? if yes, then i'm sold! :)
and last, when is it coming out?
wow, the specifications are outstanding. and it does look a way better too
satsuma,
Its been reported that Skype 2.0 required at least 400mhz cpu. So i guess you know the answer.
But is there not a low end skype client for slower processors too?
Also will 300Mhz Samsung processor make this device significantly faster than the Wizard?
marwan74
28-02-2006, 09:57
When is the Hermes coming out?
The 300 mhz proc is faster then a 416 Intel Xscale, so yeah, it will be fast enough for Skype.
The Hermes will be coming out in May/Juni by Tmobile at least in Europe. And it will be released (worldwide ?) by iMate and Qtec etc. in July.
iron_mike010
02-03-2006, 15:15
cant wait for it!
the wizard is good but too slow, now with this faster processor i dont think ill have to change my phone for a long, looong time to come:D
philipp81
07-03-2006, 20:50
T-Mobile confirms the early appearance of the HTC Hermes...the T-mobile name will be "MDA VARIO II" http://www.t-mobile.de/presse/cebit2006/1,10606,15541-_,00.html
Yes, it will have:
- UMTS
- HSDPA
- Trackwheel
- 2,1 Megapixel Cam
...hope to see more at CEBIT these days!!!
I hear the the front facia is customised by operator, keyboard is standard. Also the HSDPA firmware (some operators might release with HSDPA hardware and provide software upgrade later) wont be ready until late 2006/7...
philipp81
09-03-2006, 15:26
Here are some more News...
HTC Hermes was shown at CEBIT, it also supports EDGE and it has a launch-exclusivity for Germany in June :-) I'm so glad to be in Germany :-) Some more pics and informations click here (http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2945)
iron_mike010
09-03-2006, 19:34
Wunderbar!
Great news, any indications on price though?
philipp81
10-03-2006, 00:31
Here are some more fantastic Pics and a good review :jump: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5011.html
marwan74
10-03-2006, 08:09
im glad they fixed the camera on the Jamin, now if only they would fix the ear speaker on all new iMates.
philipp81
10-03-2006, 13:04
Here is an official data sheet of the MDA Vario II CLICK HERE (http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/pressemitteilungen/datenblatt_t-mobile_vario_ii.pdf)
iron_mike010
08-04-2006, 12:49
hope this one can run skype though!
cant wait for thise device!!
jasjar i have now is just too bloody huge!!
bigpengu
14-04-2006, 19:43
WoW! Was so looking forward to the SE p990, but now the Hermes might even be release before it! I havent any experiences with any of the HTC devices so how does it compare to the build quality of a p910 e.g? Would the Hermes be a decent performer in the multimedia aspect? e.g watching tv shows and movies on the go? and what are the main differences in your opinion between symbian's UIQ and WM5???
Thank you! :)
I managed to get my hands on a variant of the hermes last week, it is very quick compaired to the wizard. 300mhz samsung processor.
Badger What was scroll wheel functionality like? Does it work in contacts app and telephone app?
Yes it does, or I should say that the firmware of the device I have used you could.
In the contacts app it allows you to scroll through contacts. Only on the today screen would it control the volume.
Its up to the customer (Qtek, iMate, T-Mobile, Vodafone etc) to choose how the hardware keys function with their firmware.
iron_mike010
23-04-2006, 22:57
So is there any newz on a HTC Universal replacement?!
coz now i have the large screen i dont think i can revert back to a 320x240 of the hermes!
btw badger, are they any nearer releasing this hermes yet?! coz tmobile netherlands has opened up its hspda network and i wouldnt mind giving it a go:D
iron_mike010, No Vario II before Q3 in the Netherlands. Successor for the MDA Pro not before the half of 2007.
MR
MR, I hear that some networks & distributors will launch earlier with UMTS only, HSDPA will follow later via a ROM upgrade. Not heard anything about the Universal replacment at all.... I would like to see more devices with VGA screens, from what I have heard of Trinity that is just a Prophet with HSDPA...
bigpengu
25-04-2006, 00:50
Whats the likely hood of the Hermes being released before the P990i? And if you guys had to choose between the two which one will it be and why??? Looking forward to your opinions......
Thanks!
Pierke Smulders
25-04-2006, 09:14
SonyEricsson is not very clear about the releasedate of the P990. It has been delayed several times. I think HTC Hermes will be out before the P990.
I use to be a SonyEricsson fan but after seeing the HTC hermes, i'm starting to doubt as well...
Mobility Man
22-05-2006, 06:27
LATE JULY WILL HAVE THEM JULY OR AUGUST
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/product_info.php?cPath=54_58&products_id=183&osCsid=f42e59881acecd222376891f8a482f4e
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/shopping_cart.php?osCsid=f42e59881acecd222376891f8 a482f4e
The operator branded variants of this device will also be launched July..
I have seen some images of branded device and they look very nice.
Yeah O2 Hermes has the best look
Yeah, it looks pretty sweet actually :)
For the latest news regarding the O2 release check the::unwired (http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3062)
I have seen other variants which look far better than the o2 version. The o2 version is very close to the generic HTC model with the addition of the o2 logo.
I have seen other variants which look far better than the o2 version. The o2 version is very close to the generic HTC model with the addition of the o2 logo.Where have you seen other variants? I have heard there will be a version with af different type of keypad (more like the one on HTC Wizard), but I haven't seen any other variants than this.
Recently announced wiBRO PDA-hermes-RAZR wannabe, which has nicer design
http://image.aving.net/img/2006/05/22/handheld3_1.jpg
http://image.aving.net/img/2006/05/22/handheld3_spec.jpg
Certainly a nice design, but if that's a 4.3" screen then the device is a little too big for me :)
bigpengu
24-05-2006, 11:32
Yeah second that! it certainly looks yummy but that must be in the PSP territory in size with that huge screen.
What are the opinions of which between the Hermes and P990i will be released first? and what about the price difference?
Pierke Smulders
24-05-2006, 12:15
Can we expect the wiBRO-Hermes in the near future?
HTC Hermes is simply to good, for wireless carriers to give up on it, so also O2 Europe (Germany, UK, Ireland) is launching it under the name Xda Trion:
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/other/xda-trion.jpg
One big surprise: O2 is launching it with processor 400 MHz from Samsung instead of 300 MHz mentioned by other operators and distributors! Samsung's 400 MHz processor is approximately the same speed as Intel Xscale 520 MHz. More highlights about this phone:
real wheel that increases usability - not just jog-dial ; wheel is one of the main reasons why BlackBerry devices are such a big success and after Motorola Q, HTC Hermes is the second phone with real wheel
retractable QWERTY keyboard - very good but not usable with one hand - one must use 2 hands to use it
powered by Windows Mobile 5.0 for Pocket PC Phone Edition with AKU2/MSFP (i.e. with push email on board)
cellular: GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS and HSDPA
2 cameras: in the front QCIF camera for video calling and on the back megapixel camera for taking photos
both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi integrated
expected date of commercial availability: July 2006
Official information about Xda trion is available at the website of O2 here. (http://shop2.o2online.de/o2/interessenten/necos/details/index.html?articleId=04&salesChannel=SHOP)
http://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_3_large.jpghttp://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_2_large.jpghttp://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_3_large.jpg
Imate JasJAM still maintain the original (ugly) look and it has different specs as well
http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_jasjam
300mhz CPU
SDIO Slot instead of miniSD???
iron_mike010
24-05-2006, 17:18
that razr type phone looks amazing!!
screen is great for me as i am now used to the execs size and reverting back to the smaller size will really suck!
wow is all i can say and hope that htc goes in the same direction style wise:D
http://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_3_large.jpghttp://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_2_large.jpghttp://www.imatephonestore.com/images/prev/prev_IMATE_jasjam_3_large.jpg
Imate JasJAM still maintain the original (ugly) look and it has different specs as well
http://www.imatephonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=IMATE_jasjam
300mhz CPU
SDIO Slot instead of miniSD???I doubt that www.imatephonestore.com knows anymore than any of us. They have probably just copied the specs from some news source and posted the computer generated images from last year and hoped that someone will pre-order it.
The keyboard is the main standard component HTC supply. The faceplate is allowed to be customised by networks and suppliers.
The variant I mention has not had a press release placed on the web yet, Soon ;)
The device uses MicroSD.
bigpengu
25-05-2006, 01:00
only 64mb of RAM still??? Why didnt they added more?
bigpengu, WM5 device don't need a huge amount of RAM - storage space is provided with Flash-ROM, so 64MB RAM can be completely used as RAM...which should be enough.
badger,
Those variants must be from Voda VP series or T-Mobile MDA series right?
yew cant wait to see :)
gauravdc
25-05-2006, 10:13
someone here.....please give me a tissue....i want to cry(out of joy)...
THIS IS THE BEST PHONE I HAVE EVER seen.
I was planning on going in for the Imate Kjam but then this beauty comes along ....and damn! its a great phone.
This would probably be my most IDEAL phone in the world.
Runs windows mobile 5---tons of software
Has bluetooth 2 with a2dp hopefully---None of the affordable nokias have that
Super Keyboard----None of the nokias have that too
The only thing that is slightly lacking for me are the mmc card support,the fm and the VGA screen....but then u cant have everything in life can u!
hey badger and chokia,great to see you guys in the ms forums too!!!
Thank you all so much for posting so much great info...i truly believe that msmobiles are the future of mobility.I will be posting much more on these forums in the near future.
Here are some photos of the Hermes if you havent found them already
http://www.theunwired.net/photo/index.php?gallery=./Gadgets/Pocket%20PCs/HTC%20Hermes
I'm just curious...but do you get miniusb to 3.5mm jacks for the headphones of your choice?
And....dont you just love the looks of the o2 model?....so much better than the beta test version!
Thanks yall!
g
gauravdc
25-05-2006, 10:16
p.s....sorry for the double post.....how much do u think this phone will be out for on ebay in a month or two?
The keyboard is the main standard component HTC supply. The faceplate is allowed to be customised by networks and suppliers.
The variant I mention has not had a press release placed on the web yet, Soon ;)Fair enough :)
Do you know how the Qtek version will look like or is that also confidential (maybe that is the version you have seen :p)?
Where I live I will probably only be able to get the Qtek version - no O2/T-Mobile/Orange/Vodafone etc. here - so I hope that version looks good too :)
The Qtek is the same as the iMate variant just with different branding. It will I believe have the windows key and ok on the front of the device - see the images of the o2 version.
I also heard that HSDPA support doesnt arrive to WM5 until AKU-3, when the hermes variants launch - july onwards - they will not be at AKU-3. This will be an update just like the AKU pack which enabled direct push.
ed anger
28-05-2006, 20:46
Recently announced wiBRO PDA-hermes-RAZR wannabe, which has nicer design
hey chokia, did you find a name for this device? looks amazing.
PostDeals
30-05-2006, 05:40
I just bought a Cingular 8125 (still in 30 day trial period) and I am debating if I should keep it or wait for this to come out. I need a phone with fast data service since I travel a lot and would like to connect it to my Laptop and use it as a modem. I get only 80 - 100 kilobits with my 8125 and bluetooth on my laptop which is not fast enough for me.
Any recommendations? I don't mind I can go with any provider not in a contract. Please advise and recommend a pda/phone that has good fast service. I travel a lot so service availability is important.
Also the 8125 only cost me $150 after rebate but I am not sure if I can upgrade it to support the 3g or faster data network that Cingular may come out with. I am only 3 miles from their Corporate HQ in Atlanta but not sure if the phone will support it.
Should I wait for Hermes and do you know when it will come out and for how much? Money is tight so don't want to spend too much $$$.
jeg_elsker
31-05-2006, 19:40
about the Samsung processor, will it affect the 3rd party application available for this phone? I mean does 3rd party software for PDA-Phone requires certain processor like Intel or etc.. ? Because i had an iPaq PDA with samsung processor but not WM5 OS, and when i try to download som 3rd party application they say that it requires Intel processor.. Btw, this is a very good phone. Hope O2 will launch it in singapore or malaysia too.
Preview O2 XDA trion by PDAGold
http://www.pdagold.com/img/articles/en/small/0000000283_lgTr245115114923.jpg
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Hermes variant : T-Mobile MDA Vario II
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I think Trion has the best look for now
niceeee....
anyone know the price if sim free?
niceeee....
anyone know the price if sim free?
At least $800 I would guess - probably more like $900-$1000.
The image above is the generic HTC device, the released models have a windows & ok keys on the home screen next to the green/red
somebody said it doesnt have an earphone slot..is that right??
lol
that would be dissapointing , no?
how about AD2P?
bigpengu
02-06-2006, 09:53
Will both the imate and Qtek versions have the same extra two softkeys? What about the 400Mhz Samsung processor, will that be in all the variants? because apparantly chokia mentions something about 02 being one of few launching this handset with the Samsung processor (read post #67 above!). Sure seems strange that the processor would be different by such a margin between the variants.
somebody said it doesnt have an earphone slot..is that right??
lol
that would be dissapointing , no?
how about AD2P?
It doesn't have a dedicated earphone slot. You will have to use the USB slot to plug in your earphones - just like with the HTC Star Trek. I'm pretty sure this will have A2DP.
Will both the imate and Qtek versions have the same extra two softkeys? What about the 400Mhz Samsung processor, will that be in all the variants? because apparantly chokia mentions something about 02 being one of few launching this handset with the Samsung processor (read post #67 above!). Sure seems strange that the processor would be different by such a margin between the variants.
I'm pretty sure all the models (i-mate, Qtek, T-Mobile, O2, etc.) will feature the 400 MHz Samsung CPU. The first preproduction models from HTC featured the 300 MHz version, but it has now been replaced with the 400 MHz one.
i have never bought an imate before but i heard from various sources that the i-mates in general had loads of problems..such as battery life, phone freezing, phone ringing only several times, problems with softwares and many more...
i wonder if some of those have been fixed..
I'm pretty sure this will have A2DP.It depends which AKU it ships with. I think it will be AKU-2.7... if so then it will most likley have A2DP.
PostDeals
03-06-2006, 03:09
Do you know when this is coming out? I am tempted to purchase the Motorola Q but would like one with WIFI in it.
brucewilsonpa
05-06-2006, 19:07
i have never bought an imate before but i heard from various sources that the i-mates in general had loads of problems..such as battery life, phone freezing, phone ringing only several times, problems with softwares and many more...
i wonder if some of those have been fixed..
I have had the k-jam for several months and did not experience any of these problems -- the original Imate ROM had a few glitches but they were among the first to come out with an update (and it included push email and improved bluetooth) -- I have high praise for the k-jam, and for Imate service. My only complaint with the k-jam is that the surface of the black plastic portion of the case is easily scratched.:rotate:
bruce,
thanks for your reply.
you must be one of the lucky ones to have a clean set as many people i know are trying to get rid of their i-mates of various models. as i said, i never used one but i have been seeing some of their recently announced devices and they surely look to be the part but before i buy any gadgets i try to always get the ratings from actual users and thats why i appreciate your reply.
i was reading a review on the jasjar, which looks fantastic honestly, on GSM arena and there were loads of complaints about it. i know a guy who came to me a week ago and said one of his friends was offering the jasjar for sale due to problems.
im certainly interested in them as they look more suited for business use and it has a similar UI as in the windows used on laptops and desktops.
bigpengu
06-06-2006, 12:39
D G,
I have been using my imate K-jam for a few months now and I would like to let you know that it is an excellent device. The only problem I have experienced with it is sometimes during multitasking the device will freeze for only 1-3 seconds, which I believe is due to its slow processor but it certainly doesnt annoy me. My sister uses the jasjar and she hates it because her one requires at least one reset in one day so that is pretty bad considering its a phone too. The jasjar is soo huge too! the k-jam is much more comfortable to use in everyday life. If your gona buy one now then I would strongly recommend the K-jam, but it would be more wise to wait for the Hermes as the processor issue would hopefully be solved with its new 400Mhz samsung processor.
For me, I still dont know whether to buy the Hermes or the P990i when both are released!!!!???
For me, I still dont know whether to buy the Hermes or the P990i when both are released!!!!???
big,
thats if SE ever releases this phone :)
thanks for your feedback. i will wait for the hermes but i posted another story regarding new models to be released by i-mate/HCT...
interesting stuff really.
brucewilsonpa
06-06-2006, 14:52
bruce,
thanks for your reply.
you must be one of the lucky ones
I'm sure I don't need to remind you that on most forums we see primarily the complaints -- after all few of us take the time to chat if we're happy with our device/software. That having been said, I do recognize there are problems with this device as with most new technology devices. Just wanted to point out that Imate is better than some people's experience suggest.
AD2P will arrive later with the AKU-3 release...
It could be added by HTC but Microsoft will be supporting it witheir BT stack with AKU-3. Hermes will not ship with AKU-3, it will be an update later this year.
We will start to see Hermes in the shops in July.
HTC has finalized Hermes with
400 MHz processor, new jog-dial and better keyboard. better macro with switch and better pic quality, microSD (yes not miniSD) and New battery 1350mAH from the old 1250m
http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/th_HTC-Hermes_06.jpg (http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/HTC-Hermes_06.jpg)http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/th_HTC-Hermes_09.jpg (http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/HTC-Hermes_09.jpg)http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/th_HTC-Hermes_13.jpg (http://www.phonearena.com/imgs/pics/articles/HTC-Hermes_09.jpg)
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Final Photo Quality (click to view original size)
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Source: Phonearena (http://phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Hermes-the-successor-of-the-MDA-8125-Wizard-article-a_1334.html)
jeg_elsker
13-06-2006, 18:16
chokia, does it mean we can see this phone in the market soon ? :(
yes, depended on some countries!
MR
jeg_elsker
13-06-2006, 18:29
great news! i'm in Malaysia, but i think i can get it if it's released on UK. But i'll wait for the review then compared it with other alternatives before making my decision. I need a secondary phone T_T
HTC will market their own hermes and named it HTC TyTN
http://www.infosyncworld.net/resources/products/htc/htc_tytn_p00.jpg
http://www.infosyncworld.net/resources/products/htc/htc_tytn_p01.jpg
http://www.infosyncworld.net/resources/products/htc/htc_tytn_p02.jpg
source : http://europe.htc.com/products/tytn.php
ed anger
15-06-2006, 22:16
According to Engadget:
-The HTC Muse is now the Melody
-The HTC Trilogy is now the Monet
-HTC are the ones who decided the Hermes should have a 400Mhz CPU, not the carriers
-The HTC Trinity is set to have HSDPA, Wi-Fi and GPS
-The rumoured HTC Artemis will have GPS, a trackball(!!) but only EDGE
-Another rumoured device, the HTC Herald, will be Hermes-esque but only 17mm thick!
-The HTC Forseer and Monet will have another mobile TV friend to play with, the HTC Oxygen (no word on if it's DVB-H or not)
-The HTC Excalibur is set to be a moto Q-esque device
-Finally the Vera is said to be similar to the Star Trek but with HSDPA and dual cameras for video calling.
Kinda disturb me a little by looking at HTC trend of making their devices feature-riched (TV, DVB-H etc) but less versatility. Perhaps due to space constraint to make the device thinner and smaller, they completely ommitted SDIO and USB Host. This trend surely good for business I mean people keep changing their device like changing phone.
Most PDA users will keep the device for a long period of time because it has unlimited connectivities (CF slot, SDIO, USBHost). Now it's clear why most manufacturers (Nokia etc) will never make all-in-one complete device with limitless connectivities. They definitely want every share of the pie and not just the biggest.
chokia, correct! But there will be some nice devices next year that you can call all-in-one complete device.
MR
jeg_elsker
16-06-2006, 14:31
next year -.- keyword "next". Is it the "next" that means the one after or the unlimited next?? They sure know how to make money than how to make phones -.-
jeg_elsker, beginning of 2007 you will see some nice things.
MR
magnificus
16-06-2006, 22:19
MR, I wish I could know like you do about movile releases to make the right choice when I want to buy a device. Now I want to buy M600, but It will be great if it's going to be released a device like this with camera (not P990) so I could wait for it... ;)
chokia, correct! But there will be some nice devices next year that you can call all-in-one complete device.
MR
Not trying to dig out info you can't pass out but when u say some devices, are you referring to phones or pdas, or both?
Q1 2007 is when we will see AKU-3 and HSDPA support for WM5... So far WM has been aimed at the enterprise market - AKU-3 will bring the consumer stuff... all of the MSN services are moving to the new "Live" brand... all of these will sync OTA with WM.. ;)
Q1 2007 is when we will see AKU-3 and HSDPA support for WM5... So far WM has been aimed at the enterprise market - AKU-3 will bring the consumer stuff... all of the MSN services are moving to the new "Live" brand... all of these will sync OTA with WM..
i lost you here a bit..would you elaborate more on AKU3 and MSN live brand and sync OTC??!!!
i got a bit confused there..
I recently saw that HTC anouced the release for avalability across Europe for late July and I have recently been informed by a couple of cell operators they are expecting avalibilty as soon as the first week of July. With the obvious feature advantage this phone has over the SE P990 and wait for it a confirmed press release of stock availability (which SE has been unable to do), is the new UIQ3 format going to be that good that SE can carry-on with this obvious lack of communication regarding a release date of the p990. I have patiently waited for 6 months now for the P990 and I can honestly say thanks to SE cause now I can get the HTC TyTn which on face value looks to me to be a better smart phone. Offcourse final reviews and tests may proove otherwise but who knows when anyone will see a working model of the P990! If anyone has heard any other release dates or availability of the HTC please let me know??
As Badger said 2007 you will see consumer momentum with Microsoft and phones....and not just from HTC ;)
If you scour the net for prerss releases you will see hints at some of this.
The advances will be in branded services which is pushing the developments of new features on the phones.
I think what is interesting here is that although MS are viewed with suspicion by operators because of their size and reach; they are not allied to any one OEM.
This means standardisation of branded services across phones provided from multiple OEM/ODMs
The problem that Symbian (S60) has is that it's seen as Nokia's patsy.
And let's face it, Nokia are the only volume vendor of Symbian phones in GSM world (Japan is a different market and I am limiting my comments to what we see here in EMEA)...therefore branded services on Symbian / S60 means branded services on Nokia only effectively.
UIQ is not a volume platform - this may change - but based on current market shares it is not.
Linux may have a fighting chance if Motorola can push standardisation with the recent alliance announcement involving some MNOs and OEMs but other such initiatives have happened and been hot air. And I am not sure whether there will be sufficient collaboration on UI API standardisations to allow for branded services to be easily implented across all these Linux phones - we shall see.
So that puts MS in quite a neat position IMHO.
And as a result of that you will see a plethora of WM consumer devices launched in 2007 -prepare for some surprises :)
bigpengu
23-06-2006, 17:27
Eomer, when can we expect to see the WM6?
The "surprises" in 2007, as in hardware or OS?
Thanks for your always informative posts!
AKU-3 not doesnt just enable HSDPA but also some of these other services... it is currently dogfood.
But I like the black one instead of the silver one :D
http://www.autoroot.com/photos/albums/CeBIT2006/PICT4005.sized.jpg
http://www.autoroot.com/photos/albums/CeBIT2006/PICT4003.sized.jpg
Very chick :up: needs just to get a bit smaller & lighter then I'll get it :D
The hardware has changed since this image....
These blue ones were engineering samples. The final hardware has a windows & ok button on the front. This image is from 3GSM or CeBit...
badger, it was taken from CeBit if I remember correctly.
Regarding the K-Jam (wizard), can anyone post a list of bugs fixed in the K-Jam (wizard) through ROM updates, i.e. I know BT v2 was promised through a ROM update did this ever happen and what other significant problems have been resolved since the phone was released and initial reviews were written????
Stoned Hippy
30-06-2006, 11:36
I just read this article about a Chinese rebranding of the Hermes, thought you might all be interested.
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/cht-9000-the-first-chinese-3g-pda-phone-184421.php
Stoned Hippy.
Yeah looks nice
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Source : http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=4509
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/t-mobile-mda-vario-ii.jpg
Early Review : http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5339.html
HTC Hermes ( HERM100 ) Pocket PC approved by FCC in USA
July 04, 2006 [Pocket PC phone]
It is a sign, that this excellent 3G Pocket PC phone with a genuine wheel, will be sold also in USA!
Interestingly HTC has outsourced FCC approval process to Advance Data Technology Corporation (ADT), that has carried out tests to prove that this Pocket PC phone is compliant with radiation standards in USA.
Here are some highlights from this testing documentation:
both 802.11g and 802.11b are supported with full speeds:
802.11b: 11/5.5/2/1Mbps
802.11g: 54/48/36/24/18/12/9/6Mbps
maximal transmission speed over Bluetooth in this phone is 723Kbps
model name is "HERM100" what confirms that code name "HTC Hermes" is correct (please note: FCC ID is however: "NM8HERM100")
the phone can be used as modem for a notebook - it was also tested in this configuration
tests has been carried out in both GSM bands : GSM850 (called also "GSM band") and GSM1900 (called also "PCS band") what indicates that this phone is a quad-band phone that supports both GSM bands currently operational in USA
the tests encompass measurements in UMTS/HSDPA bands (that operate in 2.1 GHz range) - for example SAR measurements for operation in these bands are presented To find all testing documents submitted to FCC related to HTC Hermes click here (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=518905&fcc_id=\'NM8HERM100\).
Source (http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5344.html)
ilike the green UI as it looks easy on the eyes..
Orange Classy version
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Imate Jasjam - Russian edition
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/i-mate/i-mate-jasjam.jpg
Gallery :http://www.i-on.ru/?id=25,3289
Dopod CHT900 and Dopod 838 Pro
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/htc-hermes-variants.jpg
http://www.dopodasia.com/Dopod/Singapore/En/Products/PDAPhone/838Pro/
http://www.dopodasia.com/Dopod/Taiwan/Products/PDAPhone/CHT9000
Orange SPVM3100
http://www.modaco.com/content/manual_uploads/m3100/padsideways.gif
Review: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=243882
Felis Catus
17-08-2006, 19:37
Any info about video resolution that TyTN recordes???
CIF 20fpsin 3GPP, MPEG4, MJPG format
Source :http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=506
Cross Bow for hermes sighted and live pictures
http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/phones/htc/htc-hermes-windows-mobile-crossbow-1.jpghttp://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/phones/htc/htc-hermes-windows-mobile-crossbow-2.jpg
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285175
I have a bunch of questions around the phone and e-mail functionality like -
Can I selectively pop mail depending on size of mail and if on 3G or WiFi?
Can this be done from Yahoo and G-Mail?
What available functionality and logic exists around calling cards?
Can someone point me to a manual or guide?
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