Which is the BEST slim & card sized digital cameras out there???

[Exciting700]

Can the CANON DIGITAL IXUS 700i be considered card sized??
I'm not too sure, but it's thick right? Correct me if I'm wrong. :rotate:

What others out there is the best slim and card sized one, please tell me thanks :beer:

[Mweb]

Well i saw a Sony T7 in my local shop last week, and it was gorgeous!!

[Exciting700]

mweb6161,

WOW, that was very fast of you to reply me:cool::cool::cool:

You say it's gorgeous but is it the best out there? Please tell me.:)

[seedub]

The IXUS 700/IXY 600/SD 500, are not thin, but they are a top notch camera. Casio Exilm series has some then cameras also that are good quality.

[Mweb]

Well EX700 im sure you know that there is a compromise on performance on V small cams, but i hear good things about the T7, Too new for proper reviews though.

[Exciting700]

seedub,

How sure are you:beer:???

I thought the Casio Exilm series are not up to standard in hardwares and imaging??

Btw, I didn't know there's a IXUS 600 version:rotate:

[seedub]

seedub,

How sure are you:beer:???

I thought the Casio Exilm series are not up to standard in hardwares and imaging??

Btw, I didn't know there's a IXUS 600 version:rotate:

Its not the IXUS 600, its the IXY 600. All three of those model numbers I gave you are the same camera with different model numbers in different parts of the world. The IXUS series is European, the IXY series is east Asian and the SD series is America. I have read decent things about the Exilm series, but have never tried them myself. But like mweb6161 said, you have to sacrifice some to gain the smaller sizes.

[Exciting700]

seedub,

I heard that the Exilm series all have yellowish tints to their huge TFT LCDs and the images quality are inferior to the Canon IXUS series.
There's another thing I notice though about the Exilm series LCD's, they are large no doubt, but the pixel density is only very little considering that the Ixus 500 with a 1.5 inch LCD can have much more pixels.

[seedub]

seedub,

I heard that the Exilm series all have yellowish tints to their huge TFT LCDs and the images quality are inferior to the Canon IXUS series.
There's another thing I notice though about the Exilm series LCD's, they are large no doubt, but the pixel density is only very little considering that the Ixus 500 with a 1.5 inch LCD can have much more pixels.

Yes, but you arent buying a camera to watch on the screen are you? The quality of the pictures is what you need to be concerned with and the Exilm series is ok with that. Thats also a reason you pay more for the IXUS series, because they are higher quality.

[Exciting700]

seedub,

Yes, I'll be using the screen to watch my photos and videos (I would upload them to my com too) But I'm very concern about the image and video quality on screen too.

Any idea what's the latest Exilm series to date?

[seedub]

I am not sure exactly what the latest Exilm camera is, I am not interested in them myself so I havent paid to much attention.

[Exciting700]

seedub,

Okay, it's alright, thanks for all your feedbacks so far.

So back to topic once again:)

Which is the BEST slim & card sized digital cameras out there???

[Mweb]

have a look in here ex700 http://search.ecoustics.com/Editorial/Reviews/Digital-Camera/Alpha-Name/All/ its my world famous list of every cam on the market!! If a digicam has been reviewed ANYWHERE its in that list!! :beer:

[seedub]

Or go here and check out some reviews and compare them yourself based on user reviews.
http://reviews.cnet.com/Digital_cameras/2001-6501_7-0.html?tag=cnetfd.dir

[Exciting700]

mweb6161,

Help, the site is so confusing!!!
Thanks for the link anyway.

[Mweb]

for current casio models look here, http://www.imaging-resource.com/MFR1.HTM?view=Casio

[Exciting700]

mweb6161,

Thank you very much, it was abit helpful.

[Karim]

I saw the Sony T3 and T7, the T3 is a bit bigger but more or less the same camera.
I'm really in love with the T7!

[Exciting700]

I couldn't seem to excess the slim digital cameras section of Panasonic's webside(Just got stuck there with a blank page).
Any idea about Panasonic's latest slim digital cameras?

[Ghibli]

I'm using a Sony T3 now. :)
It's fabulous; the display is so incredibly huge and the design is just gorgeous. It's also very easy to use. The options/functions aren't that sparse for a fashion-oriented cam, although I still think in terms of picture quality Canon is better.

The T7 is practically the same as the T3 feature-wise, although it's obviously much slimmer but wider. I haven't tried it yet, but I imagine it'd be less comfortable to handle than the already-slim T3, because it's so thin.

[McKinley]

Exciting700,
I would not recommend the Canon Ixus 700. It has the same size as my old Ixus 430 which I sold for a week ago. I replaced it with Ixus 50 which is smaller than the Ixus 700. It also takes better pictures from different reviews I have read.
You will love the Ixus 50 for what it does and for what it is.

Key features:
*Very good photo quality
*Blazing performance
*Great movie mode at VGA resolution with a 30FPS framerate.
*Very small
*Canon brand stands for quality and you know that

How do you take a proper shot without an optical viewfinder in dark conditions with the Sony T7?

[Exciting700]

Ghibli, McKinley,
Thanks for the feedbacks:rotate:

However McKinley, how does the Canon Digital Ixus 50 compare to the Sony DSC T7 other than the optical viewfinder part?

[McKinley]

Exciting700,
I had the luck to play with them both at home before I decided to buy the Ixus 50.
Sony T7 is smaller and lighter but Canon Ixus 50 on the other does things so much better. My experience says that the T7 takes pretty soft images which isn't my cup of tea and colours in photos aren't as accurate as the Ixus 50's photos. You have the ability to set one of the preinstalled white balance control but you also need the ability to set your white balance in the way you want it to be since the automacy to this camera isn't the best. Unfortunately that ability does not exist to the T7 which is a big let down. Indoor pictures made by the T7 were pretty poor compared to the Ixus 50 but for outside environment, it did well. The battery to the T7 also made a negative influence on me. Pictures also turned out more grainy with the T7 and I also wonder, is the flash to the T7 weaker than Z800i's six led lights? Truly poor flash performance.

Don't consider the T7 is my conclusion.

[Exciting700]

McKinley,

Thank you:)

[McKinley]

Exciting700,
I have some gripes to the Ixus 50 as well but those are just irrelevant compared to the T7's all issues.

[Exciting700]

McKinley,

I'm not surprise, CANON has always been better!;)

[McKinley]

Exciting700,
Knowhow in one thing isn't an achievment that just appears from nowhere.
An amazing heritage from 35mm film cameras plus good R&D department can only end up with a result which exceeds other competitors.

[Exciting700]

CANON, born from the legacy of trust:D:up::cool:

[Mweb]

Exciting700,
Knowhow in one thing isn't an achievment that just appears from nowhere.
An amazing heritage from 35mm film cameras plus good R&D department can only end up with a result which exceeds other competitors.
could say exactly the same!! :D

[Memzee]

The Nikon S1 is meant to be quite good isn't it? I'll be in the market for a small camera for the family soon, and I'm looking at that, the T3 and the Ixus700. After paying a stupid amount for the Olympus mju400 and 128MB xD card when it first came out I'm looking forward to owning a better one, because I was quite dissapointed with it.. especially in terms of red eye and photos in low light. I have to spend nearly 10 minutes on each photo to get them to look somewhere near acceptible.

[BMWM3]

I saw the Sony T3 and T7, the T3 is a bit bigger but more or less the same camera.

I have Sony T1, and i'm loving it!
Huge screen, but a lot of battery drain obviously-but it's worth it!
T3/T7 are new, don't know what's new with it though?
:beer:
Not to good indoors, bad flash and red eye can happen, but design mmm

[Manticorp]

What does everyone think of the Sony DSC M1? I think it looks sexy and sleek and doesn't let you down in the specs department =/ anyone?

URL=http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/m1.html]Sony M1[/URL]

[Syphon]

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Sony/sony_dscm1.asp

^ M1. Seems to have problems with flash and video. And the software is rubbish too it seems.

As far as ultra-compacts go, here are some you may wish to look at. I don't know how well they stack up against each other, they are just a cross section of the ultra-compact range:

Casio Exilim EX-Z55
Casio Exilim EX-S3
Olympus D-630 Zoom
Olympus Stylus Verve Digital S
Fujifilm FinePix Z1
Nikon Coolpix S1
Pentax Optio X
Ricoh Caplio R2
Samsung Digimax U-CA 401
Sony DSC-T7
Sony DSC-T33
Sony DSC-T3
Sony DSC-T11
Sony DSC-T1

[McKinley]

Syphon,
Something tells me that you don't like Canon or did you just happen to forget your favourite brand? ;)

[Syphon]

hehe, Canon is indeed my favourite brand, I own a 20D, I just don't think anything Canon makes can be considered "ultra-compact". I mean, the IXUS range are small, but not when compared to some of the things I listed.

The trade off is clear though. Add some size, and you get the supreme Canon quality.

[Mweb]

The trade off is clear though. Add some size, and you get the supreme Canon quality.
Add a fair bit of extra cash too :D

[McKinley]

Syphon,
For your information:
Canon Ixus 30/40/50 are as small and even smaller than some of those cameras above.
They used to produce "ultra" slim camera but not anymore because they eventually learned how to produce ultra slim digital camera without compromising in terms of quality and features.

Mark,
Your statement is not correct. They are as cheap as any other digital cameras from other brands.

[Syphon]

OK fair enough, I haven't kept pace with the compact Canon things now.

As for the price, even if it is slightly more, it's well worth it for the overall gain in quality, both in terms of the photos and the physical quality of the camera body itself.

[Ghibli]

The Nikon S1 is meant to be quite good isn't it? I'll be in the market for a small camera for the family soon, and I'm looking at that, the T3 and the Ixus700.
I do get the feeling that the S1 is produced by Sony for Nikon. It's virtually identical to the T3 spec-wise, and the form-factor is very similar. It even uses MS Duo, which happens to be my least favourite feature about the T3 because it's so bloody expensive, and plus I've got no SE phone to share it with. :insane:

[McKinley]

Ghibli,
Maybe it is time for you to replace your so beloved SX1? ;)

[flakeup]

Don't forget that the Battery life is a impact and a chomp too on alot of these Ultraslim things. So the only problem other than the poor indoor lighting for the T7 (as well as the casio exilim s3 and many slims as I am hearing) the is the battery life as I heard for Sony T7 is alot less than the Canon.



Exciting700,
I had the luck to play with them both at home before I decided to buy the Ixus 50................................................ .................................................. .......................................
Sony T7 is smaller and lighter but Canon Ixus 50 on the other does things so much better. Unfortunately that ability does not exist to the T7 which is a big let down. Indoor pictures made by the T7 were pretty poor compared to the Ixus 50 but for outside environment, it did well. The battery to the T7 also made a negative influence on me. Pictures also turned out more grainy with the T7 and I also wonder, is the flash to the T7 weaker than Z800i's six led lights? Truly poor flash performance.

Don't consider the T7 is my conclusion.

[Crossblade]

http://mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?p=252187#post252187

I like Nikon S1 !

[Ghibli]

The latest images of my SX1 in the flame forum were taken by the Sony T3 using macro mode.:) http://mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?p=257068#post257068
The quality really is quite poor indoors, but the macro is pretty good although not as flexible as I'd like.

[xplicitpin0i]

i'd suggest the canon, though its not the thinnest you can always depend on them for good quality pics.. Unlike sony the detail, even when you zoom in from you computer is very fine, sony's is somewhat blury.. I'm happy with my ixus30/sd200 (I don't really have a lot of money to spend)..

I also agree with Ghilbi, i think sony is producing them for nikon same with another camera, I forget what the name is, the button layout is similar to sony's camera's, the placement of the lense and other things are also similar to that of the t3.. but no it doesnt use ms duo but sd cards..

[alansa]

The Casio Exilim range of cameras are fantastic credit card size cameras which offer a wealth of features. Check them out!

I recently purchased the EX-Z750, a 7mp camera. It is really good. I am suprised there is little mention of the Casio range on this forum. I guess most people prefer big brands like Canon and Nikon.

I have not read any detailed reviews about the new Casio EX-S500 but it sure looks good. :2jump:

[Mweb]

Your quite right ALANSA, Nikon and Canon tend to dominate in this forum in a similar fashion to Nokia and SE!! But the real deals can be found by looking beyond the big two!!

[Super Chimp]

I would say the Sony T7 it recently won the TIPA award in this class of camera.

See this link.

http://www.tipa.com/awa_detail_2005.lasso?-Search=Action&-Table=web&-Database=awards_2005&-KeyValue=6

[m_kostlin]

The Casio Exilim range of cameras are fantastic credit card size cameras which offer a wealth of features. Check them out!

I recently purchased the EX-Z750, a 7mp camera. It is really good. I am suprised there is little mention of the Casio range on this forum. I guess most people prefer big brands like Canon and Nikon.

I have not read any detailed reviews about the new Casio EX-S500 but it sure looks good. :2jump:


alansa, what is the flash like with your EX-Z750? is it good? and what distance do you get out of it? Also is the LCD screen easy to view when outside in the sun, what about in the dark, does it lighten up?

I have just had a look at the casio s500, looks good, and seams to be getting good reviews but flash does not look good, 2.5m (w) and 1.5(t)

[Naim.F.C]

Sony T7 I say.

I think Sony is bang on with quality of build and imaging with all their digi cams.
As well as design innovation and style.

[alansa]

m_kostlin:

The flash on my Casio Exilim EX-S750 is not great but it is good enough for my needs. It has also a flash assist feature which helps. I have no idea what the range is for the flash.

The LCD is big, bright and works fine in bright sun light. You also have the added option of using the tiny viewfinder if necessary.

I have previously owned the Canon S50, Sony 828 and Nikon D70 SLR. I think this Exilim is the nicest to use of the lot of them. The flash and certain other aspects of my Exilim are no where near as good as the D70 of course but the sheer portability and userfriendliness of this camera really do make up for it.

I have also found that I can great macro shots in low light conditions whcih are far better than anything I could achieve using my old D70 (with kit lens) and the Sony 828.

It was this review which prompted me to puchase this camera and I must agree that what this guy said about the Exilim is true: http://www.kenrockwell.com/casio/exz750.htm

I mentioned on another forum that this camera has built in basic photo editing options. Whilst Photoshop is a million times better, it is a handy feature to have. After you have taken a photo, you can change the white balance, exposure and crop an image using the built in editing feature.

I do kind of wish I waited for the EX-S500 to come out though and might have bought that one instead.

[m_kostlin]

alansa
Thanks. I saw that review and it does sound good, there were only a few things that bothered me
1) The flash, as you mentioned
2) There is no anti-reflective coating and the LCD does not gain up in low light conditions
3) Can you tell me if the LCD is a 100% coverage? Do you know the size of the actual screen cover?
4) Does the docking cradle act as a USB connection to your PC and does it charge through your PC? if this is the case then its difficult when travelling cause I don?t have a PC with me when I travel.


I found some info about the EX-S500, also seem very good, but can?t find any reviews. if you know the above answers to this camera that would be great too :D


If you can answer these I would REALLY appreciate it.

[dragonocen]

and the best ones now? :jump:

[hellopeach]

and the best ones now? :jump:

IMO, Kodak V705 and Kodak V610 :cool: