ipod -20gb vs. creative zen touch -20gb [Archive]

saliquincer

23-01-2005, 18:03

Sony NW-HD3

Key Features of the NW-HD3:
ATRAC3plus and MP3 playback compatible
Over 30 hours of playback time (In ATRAC3plus 48kbps mode)
G-Sensor *
20GB HDD = 13,000 tracks(900CDs) (Calculated on the basis of 4 minutes per song and using ATRAC3plus 48kbps)
4 color variations (Silver/ Black/ Pink / Red)
Aluminium body
Headphones and AC adaptor supplied
USB cable supplied
USB adaptor supplied

G-Sensor :
G-Sensor technology monitors and calculates the gravitational velocity of NW-HD3 in its three dimensions (height, width and depth); the sensor device clears the recording head away from the hard disc when the unit receives physical impact during operation. As a result, recorded content is protected by preventing the recording head from potentially scratching the hard disc surface !!! :)

MR_Dexterous

23-01-2005, 18:05

Color screen color screen?????;)

TRicks.

23-01-2005, 18:06

iRiver ones have :) and the VAIO hard disk players and IPOD photos... :)

snowboarder_boi

23-01-2005, 18:08

yes, which comes to my second point which i forgot to mention- the price. i think the creatives price is exceptional for 20gb's, the sony is something special- i know, but is out of my price range. i am willing to ait a few weeks, i presume the price for any of them wouldn't drop significantley? thanks for your replys :)

TRicks.

23-01-2005, 18:08

Sony NW-HD3 - thats the same as the Sony NW-HD1 with a little bit of difference in the exterior. the HD1 is cheaper now and there will be a firmware upgrade for it to support native MP3!

They are very similar! :)

MR_Dexterous

23-01-2005, 18:11

iRiver ones have :)and the VAIO hard disk players and IPOD photos...:)
Very nice, I'll try to get one for myself!:)

saliquincer

23-01-2005, 18:14

full features of DH3 : Here (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=pa_DigitalMusicPlayers_Network&Dept=pa)

snowboarder_boi,
then pick Zen Touch ;)

MR_Dexterous

23-01-2005, 18:20

Take a look at this wonder!!http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/photo_gallery/0,39034081,39197523,00.htm

TRicks.

23-01-2005, 18:24

IMO I wouldnt advise the Zen Touch as its a copy of the Ipod and the touch strip doesnt work as well.. Get the Ipod BUT theres a lot more choice out there! :)

MR_Dexterous

23-01-2005, 18:29

I heard that nowdayz Ipods are equipped with sensor buttons? Means you just tap it and it will function!:rotate:

TRicks.

23-01-2005, 18:31

its like a trackpad for a laptop. :)

MR_Dexterous

23-01-2005, 18:36

its like a trackpad for a laptop.
Awesome, ipod is the most advance MP3 players around I believe:up: But also the most expensive:down:
But look at the casing:lol:

snowboarder_boi

23-01-2005, 18:59

IMO I wouldnt advise the Zen Touch as its a copy of the Ipod and the touch strip doesnt work as well.. Get the Ipod BUT theres a lot more choice out there! :)
yeah i've read some reviews with owners complainging about the touch strip, most of which got used to it, but wether i would is questionable :eyes:

i think im going to wait a till next week and buy the zen touch :rotate:
thanks everyone!

Karim

23-01-2005, 19:26

I have the Sony Vaio VGF-AP1 and I love it!

TRicks.

23-01-2005, 19:31

I have the Sony Vaio VGF-AP1 and I love it!

lol - i know what you mean, my cradle blows me away....lol...:beer: easily pleased? Maybe! :)

Lidge

24-01-2005, 19:07

Ipod is superbly stylish and extremely simple to use the battery lifes a bit of a drag

My brothers got a zen touch and its a lot louder than ipod (sound quality is poor tho) its big and touch strip takes time to get used to.

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 19:10

I agree with that. The Zen is seriously not as polished as the Ipod and it doesnt rival it very well. Sure it may be cheap but other MP3 players are much better. My Sony NW-HD1 for example....lol :) :beer:

Karim

24-01-2005, 19:38

Mowbli, congrats on your buy, didn't know you already got it :)

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 19:42

lol - thanks its AMAZING...:)

but your Vaio isnt bad either...!!!

i have to fill up 20GB with SonicStage....!!! ouch...

seedub

24-01-2005, 19:44

Congrats Mowbli, hope you are enjoying your new toy. Is SonicStage really that bad? I have it on my computer becuase its a Sony, but have not really used it.

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 19:54

yeah - it came with my PC too, but i ve upgraded it to version 2.3, its not bad as such its just that Sony uses the ATTRAC format which is suppose to have a smaller size yet superior sound quality to that of MP3 and uses less battery power. Problem is that my collection is MP3, and there s a bit of time needed in the converting. Nevertheless if you started ripping your CDs as ATTRAC theres no problem.

Its takes a bit of time...IMO but damn is it worth it! You can put more stuff on it and the device looks really neat, cant beat a Sony design... and its not a creative, not an iriver...but a SONY WALKMAN..creator of the Walkman 25 years ago..its the Original...lol..forgive my bias... :)

:beer:

seedub

24-01-2005, 19:57

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 20:18

well - manage to take some pictures of it: :) Compared it with my NetMD... :)
lol :)

:beer:

iron_mike010

24-01-2005, 20:20

what kind of cam did you use?

:)

Karim

24-01-2005, 20:21

Mowbli, atrac is better than the regular mp3. better quality and smaller files. it takes alot of time the 1st transfer because you have to transfer like 2000-3000 songs...

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 20:25

yeah..Atrac is good :) :beer:

lol - i used my Sony Cybershot at VGA, no flash as its too shiny..lol... I think that beats my GX30 at 1mpx IMO..lol :)

seedub

24-01-2005, 20:27

well - manage to take some pictures of it: :) Compared it with my NetMD... :)
lol :)

:beer:

That is a sweet little device. If these things werent so damned expensive and I would actually use one more, then I wouldnt hesitate to picking one up. I just cant seem to justify the money on one though because I dont listent to them that much, thats why I would rather just have a decent Mp3 player on my phone.

andy.c

24-01-2005, 20:52

Mowbli, thanks for those pics. But I believe your netMD is one of the thinner MDs out there, right?
Anyway, the Sony is looking smooth. Does play normal mp3 files as well? My dad is thinking about getting one, but he's more in to the Ipod Mini right now... thought I'd try to get him to buy this so that I can test it out :D

TRicks.

24-01-2005, 21:05

Well it doesnt play mp3 natively but it is supported via SonicStage. However check http://esupport.sony.com/perl/news-item.pl?template=EN&mdl_id=1791&news_id=63 firmware update soon.

Well the MD is one of those thinner ones but i dont think its the thinnest out there.

I got some pictures if you want some size comparisions.

:beer: :)

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 00:18

hmm - completely encoded it at 256kbs ATTRAC3PLUS, battery compromised....but :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 00:23

It looks really smooth Mowbli... what did you pay for it?

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 00:38

Its RRP is £299 but i managed to pick it up with a huge discount - which isnt available anymore! hehe ! :)

its probably around £250 or a bit lower :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 00:45

Alright, I think I saw it an newspaper ad yesterday... it was about £225!

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 00:48

Considering the Ipod is like £229, i guess Sony has to be competitve!

lol - IMO its better as its not as common as the Ipod but its a Sony! :)

and the cradle rules! :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 00:53

hehe, we'll see what he gets - if he gets one! Is one of those ppl who just like browsing around wishing he had one. Last month it was a LCD TV, now it's an mp3 player and tomorrow it might be a new phone or a PDA etc :D

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 00:55

lol... do you have an Ipod? i remember you saying something about it....

:)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 00:57

Yepp, I bought an 20GB U2 special edition on ebay just before christmas... I love the click-cheel and the UI, it's so simple but still lets you control all the goodies ;)
also, I like the fact that it's black... not many of these on the streets here in Sweden ;)

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 00:58

U2 special edition? lol...thats neat..bet it was pretty expensive! :)

:beer:

andy.c

27-01-2005, 01:09

not that... like a Ipod Mini was here in Sweden at the time... around £250!
U2 version, it's black with a red click wheel and the bands autographs ingraved on the back... :D

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 01:23

U2 version, it's black with a red click wheel and the bands autographs ingraved on the back...

sounds really nice to me... ingraved autographs...nice touch.! :)

have you seen the Ipod flash players? hehe :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 01:31

My beauty!!
http://images.apple.com/ipod/u2/images/indexfrontbackse10262004.jpg

yeah, the new ipod shuffle is really bad!! no display and can only play songs in shuffle mode or the order they were transffered in... :down:

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 01:49

lol - that is a real cool device! the autographs!!!! :love: lol

Ipod shuffle? that sucks...but it still gonna sell i think!

:beer:

andy.c

27-01-2005, 12:17

Yeah, probably because of the white color, the miniversion of the click-wheel and the apple logo! ;) There are so many flash-units out there that are better and probably cheaper...

iron_mike010

27-01-2005, 15:02

dude

the coolest thing about the u2 ipod is the music!!

dont you get every single album thy ever made on it?

Karim

27-01-2005, 16:33

Didn't like the red/black one, loses the touch, the classy look of the ipod imo :|

seedub

27-01-2005, 16:34

Didn't like the red/black one, loses the touch, the classy look of the ipod imo :|

Congrats on 3000 Karim. I just cant seem to really draw myself to like the Ipod's, I think it has something to do with just about everyone having one. I saw a Phillips one that was glossy black the other day and that was a nice looking device. I dont know how good the Phillips players are though.

Karim

27-01-2005, 17:27

I have the Sony Vaio one and it's quite nice :love:

iron_mike010

27-01-2005, 17:32

Karim, odelsteken, mowbli,
that aint shit!

my brother needed a usb stick for schoolwork.
for 40euro he was able to get one(256mb) with an mp3 player in it....

now thats blinging!:cool:

Karim

27-01-2005, 18:10

iron_mike010, 256MB is too low ;)

iron_mike010

27-01-2005, 18:11

Karim,

;)

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 18:13

well done Karim! 3000 posts...arent you an expert yet?

yeah 256mb is too low....you can forget about music quality too..lol

:beer:

Karim

27-01-2005, 18:16

Mowbli, 3500 for expert ;) But I'm already an expert :lol: :lol: j/k :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 21:25

Karim, congrats mate!! Well done :D

iron_mike010, you dont get all of their albums on the player when you buy it. You get a $50 off on Itunes if you buy them all there... Doesn't matter that much since I already got all of their albums! ;)

Karim

27-01-2005, 21:57

odelsteken, congrats on the S700 :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 22:03

cheers mate :D

Mweb

27-01-2005, 22:06

Congrats Ode :insane: ;)

TRicks.

27-01-2005, 22:06

odelsteken, hehe..enjoying the S700? :)

andy.c

27-01-2005, 22:17

so far yes, but the speaker is a bit annoying though... since it's located next to the camerashutter it tends to vibrate when it rings... :-/

sunystory@hotmail.com

27-01-2005, 22:34

i don't recomment sony because of their own unique format. You need to convert the files into atrac before sending it. I prefer mp3 players which has ogg functionality with it. OGG is a format which has better quality than mp3. (I prefer iriver, yepp over ipod)
BTW, I think that pmp is quite good in this case. I am using samsung digital-square istation pmp player. it has a touch screen with QVGA resolution. It has 20GB and it is around the size of ipod. It plays mp3 of course, and it plays mpeg, divx, and so on. It has

Karim

27-01-2005, 22:44

sunystory@hotmail.com, software converts mp3 into ATRACplus before sending the songs. and itunes is so slow that it gives the same result as transfering them to an ipod :)

andy.c

28-01-2005, 01:19

itunes is so slow
not that slow... also, your Ipod will appear as a disk drive so you dont have to use Itunes if you dont want to!

Karim

28-01-2005, 05:53

odelsteken, I wouldn't mess with the iPod_Control folder ;)

patrick_san460

28-01-2005, 11:09

IMO the ipod u2 pretty looks like the distinctive bold series [7260-80] from nokia.. just the way i see it..

sunystory@hotmail.com

28-01-2005, 13:13

some recommendations
iriver h300
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0405/iriverh300.jpg
Storage capacity ? H320: 20 GB
? H340: 40 GB
LCD ? 2.0" TFT LCD
? 260,000 pixels
USB interface ? USB 2.0
? Can act as USB host (mass storage devices)
? USB 2.0/1.1 auto-switching
File transfer ? USB device to iRiver H300
? iRiver H300 to USB device
Battery ? Lithium-Polymer rechargable (bulit-in)
? Charges on supplied dock
AC adapter 5.0 V, 2.0 A
Photo playback ? JPEG
? BMP
Audio playback ? MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3 (MP3)
? WMA (Windows Media Player 9)
? ASF
? Ogg Vorbis
Text playback Plain text (TXT)
MP3 bitrate 8 - 320 Kbps
OGG bitrate 32 - 500 Kbps
FM tuner ? Built-in
? Recordable
Microphone Built-in
Firmware User upgradable
Dimensions ? H320: 62 x 103 x 22 mm
? H340: 62 x 103 x 25 mm
Weight ? H320: 183 g
? H340: 203 g

h10
http://www.iriveramerica.com/images/prod/hd/h10_red/H10-red-angle.jpg
Item
Category
Specification

HDD Capacity
5GB**

File System FAT 32
PC Supported OS
Windows XP

Interface
USB 2.0
Audio Frequency
20Hz~20KHz

Headphone Output
18mW (L) + 18mW (R) at 16Ω Max. Volume

S/N ratio 90dB(MP3)
Frequency range ?3dB
No. of channels Stereo (L/R)
FM Radio FM frequency ranges
87.5MHz ~ 108MHz

S/N ratio
60dB

Antenna Headphone / Earphone cord antenna
File support File type
MP3(MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3), WMA, TXT, JPG**
Audible

Bit Rate
MP3: 32Kbps ~ 320Kbps
WMA: 32Kbps ~ 192Kbps
Tag ID3 V1, ID3 V2 2.0, ID3 V2 3.0, ID3 V2 4.0
Power Supply AC Adapter
DC 5.0V, 2.0A

Battery Rechargeable Battery
General Dimension
95.5 X 54.6 X 15 (mm)

Weight
Approx. 96.2g

LCD 1.5" 260,000 TFT LCD
Operation Temperature -5?C ~ +40?C
Max. playtime Approx. 12 hours
(When used with 128 Kbps, MP3, 20 Volume level, EQ Normal, LCD off)

http://www.nickknows.com/media/h140rev.gif

- Plays Ogg Vorbis (New Compressed Audio Format)

- SRS Sound (3D Sound Technology)

- 8-Line LCD Display

- Spacious 40GB Hard Drive (Stores Music & Data Files)

- MP3 Direct Encoding

- Voice recording for user sampling rate & external MIC

- Create up-to 200 playlists with the Winamp Software

- USB 2.0 Interface

- Supports FM Tuner

- Supports File Types MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, Ogg Vorbis, WMA, ASF, WAV

- Built-in Rechargeable Lithium Polymer(1300mAh) Battery

- Colour is black

sunystory@hotmail.com

28-01-2005, 13:28

pmp100
http://218.145.55.194/Data/product/image/prpv_pmp120_s1[2].jpg
Storage 20GB : PMP-120
40GB : PMP-140

General Continuous Playback Time Video: 4 hours (640x480 @24fps, Audio:128kbps, 44.1kHz)
Video: 5 hours (320x240 @24fps, Audio:128kbps, 44.1kHz)
Audio: 10 hours (128kbps, 44.1klHz)

Connection Type USB 2.0
Download Speed Max. 480Mbps
Equalizer 5 Preset EQ(Normal, Rock, Jazz, Classic, Ultra Bass) & 1 User EQ
Dimensions Approx. 139 x 84 x 31.7 (mm)
Weight 280g (PMP-120, Including Battery)
299g (PMP-140, Including Battery)
Operational Temperature 0?C to 40?C
Direct Encoding MP3
Voice Recording Yes
Line In Yes
Line Out Yes

Audio Frequency Range 20Hz~20kHz
Headphone Output Power 20mW(R) + 20mW(L) (16Ω) at Max. Volume
S/N Ratio 90dB; A weighted
Frequency Characteristics ? 3dB
No. Channels Stereo (L+R)

FM Tuner Frequency Range 87.5MHz ~ 108MHz
S/N Ratio 60dB : A weighted
Antenna Headphone/Earphone-Cord Antenna

File support File Type MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer3, WMA, WAV, ASF(Audio)
Bit Rate MP3: 8kbps ~ 320Kbps
Tag ID3 V1 Tag, ID3 V2 2.0, ID3 V2 3.0

Motion Picture File Type AVI, ASF, MPG
Video Type Compatible XviD, MPEG-4 Video Compliant SP, MPEG1
Audio Type MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3
Video Bit Rate Max. 1.5 Mbps
Audio Bit Rate 8 kbps ~ 192 kbps
Resolution Max. 640 x 480
Frame Rate Max. 30fps
Caption SMI

Image File Type Baseline (Non-progressive) JPG
BMP (Mono, 4, 8, 24 bit)
Resolution JPG : 3100 x 2100
BMP : 800 x 600

Video Main Set Display 3.5 inch TFT LCD(QVGA) 320X240 pixels, Transflective, 260K Colors
TV Out NTSC / PAL

Power Supply AC Adaptor DC 5.0V, 2A
Battery Detachable Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery

O/S Windows requirement Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP
MAC requirement MAC OS 9.2.2 or higher / Mac OS 10.2 or higher

d10
http://www.i4u.com/images/iriver_d10_dictionary_player.jpg

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yepp
T7
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/aktualnosci/2004_12/yepp.jpg
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/column/050125/mj33_mpnavi_samsung_yp_t7_008_box.jpg
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/column/050125/mj33_mpnavi_samsung_yp_t7_013_box.jpg
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/column/050125/mj33_mpnavi_samsung_yp_t7_014_box.jpg
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/image/01_movie_t7.gif

Yepp yh935
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/column/050125/mj33_mpnavi_samsung_yh_925_boxback_023.jpg
http://www2.yepp.co.kr/column/050125/mj33_mpnavi_samsung_yh_925_boxback_001.jpg

TRicks.

28-01-2005, 14:21

lol - whats up with all this copying and pasting...:lol:

yeah the iRiver MP3 players are very good quality - however they are pretty big and bulky aswell.

sunystory@hotmail.com

28-01-2005, 15:14

i guess it wasn't pleasant to see many pics other than ipod??

TRicks.

28-01-2005, 17:55

i guess it wasn't pleasant to see many pics other than ipod??

eh? lol... :beer:

sunystory@hotmail.com

28-01-2005, 20:25

Mowbli, i'm just joking dude lol

Karim

28-01-2005, 23:23

Nice pics & players!

ilprincipe

29-01-2005, 00:08

sunystory@hotmail.com,
seems we have the same tastes for mp3 players as well... :D
I think I might get myself the H340 (European version with cradle and remote control) ... :)

iPods are cool,but they'Re expensive (PhotoPod) plus you don't get many accessories anymore,you have to buy them seperately... :(

snowboarder_boi

29-01-2005, 11:50

woohoo. don't believe my luck, the Sony 20Gb Hard Drive Walkman is half price in argos, new! its on clearance. aweosme:)

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 12:47

Shame there isnt any stock though. :lol:

Mweb

29-01-2005, 12:51

Shame there isnt any stock though. :lol:
I tried for one this morning, but no stock :eyes: should have gone for one last week :lol: ;)

snowboarder_boi

29-01-2005, 13:44

argghhhh yeah i no, i didnt realize, i saw it and thought wooow. not thinking of if its in stock. do you think theres any chance of it coming back out on clearance? i wouldnt have thought so.

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 14:28

Sorry mate, i think its when its gone its gone. :beer: might be in your local store. :)

snowboarder_boi

29-01-2005, 14:53

ahh that sucks. i rung my local store and they said there are none available in the whole of wales :eek: i think i'll get the zen micro.
i hate making choices! :beer:

benji

29-01-2005, 15:17

I have the iRiver ihp-120 (20GB), it does radio/voice recording/direct mp3 encoding etc. Quality piece of equipment, definate recommendation! Plus, it's very very user friendly.

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 15:49

benji, whats the price of that? :)

benji

29-01-2005, 16:31

Well, I think the standard price of it is around £200 in the UK, definately worth the money though. :)

(It doesnt have a colour screen though, but has a funky blue backlight! Don't really know why you'd want a colour screen on mp3 player o_0)

Reguards,

Ben

andy.c

29-01-2005, 20:47

odelsteken, I wouldn't mess with the iPod_Control folder
Haha, no... that's off limits :D

ilprincipe

29-01-2005, 21:07

odelsteken,
yes,now I know myself,after I messed up my gf's music library after installing her iPod mini... :D

andy.c

29-01-2005, 21:17

haha, actually I did the same with my GFs mini :lol:

Ghibli

29-01-2005, 21:56

This is something I'd love to get, the Olympus MR-100 m:robe.
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2005/pav/39082706/sc001.jpg
Such an achingly gorgeous design, and cheaper than the iPod mini. :love:

hiappy

29-01-2005, 22:01

Ghibli, Olympus MR-100 m:robe looks really cool & elegant.
Compare to iPod, iPod looks a little bit toyish.

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 22:04

Ghibli, that looks real nice - but again i d imagine its not in Europe again. Asia only i suspect?

sunystory@hotmail.com

29-01-2005, 22:15

Samsung Digital Square I-station pmp-1000
http://pmpinside.com/boardimg/phimg_00.gif
touch screen
3.5inch QVGA resolution Casio movie player TFT LCD
20,40GB hard drive
AVI, ASF, MPEG, DivX, XviD, DTS upto 720 X 480
mp3, ogg, AC3, freescale
CPU:Sigma scale
movie play time:8 hours, audio: 14hrs
dictionary / FMradio / calculator / textview / 3Line / mobile game / word processor/ pic view

sunystory@hotmail.com

29-01-2005, 22:24

DM technology DM-AV10
http://www.pmpinside.com/img/av10_big.gif
3.5inch QVGA TFT LCD

internal: 128/512MB flash memory
external SD card
AVI, DIVX4.x,5.x MP3, AC3

olympus mrobo
http://www.pmpinside.com/bbs/data/info/mrobe_img06.jpg
Model Name MR-500i
Monitor 3.7? TFT color LCD display (width 640 × height 480 pixels), approx. 260,000 colors
Storage Built-in hard disk 20GB
Supported audio file formats Windows Media Audio (WMA)
MPEG1,2, Audio Layer3 (MP3)
Number of storable tracks Approx. 5,000 music tracks
Continuous playback time Approx. 8 hours (WMA)
Approx. 12 hours (MP3)
Sampling frequency 8 to 48 kHz
Signal to Noise ratio 75 dB or higher
Bit rate WMA 32 to 192 kbps (including VBR)
MP3 8 to 320 kbps (including VBR)
Image Recording Format JPEG
Compatible standards Exif 2.2, PRINT Image Matching II, PictBridge
Number of storable photos Approx. 20,000
Operating conditions Temperature: 5?C to 40?C (41 to 104?F)
Humidity: 30 to 90% (no condensation)
Charge Time Approx. 3 hours (using the AC adapter)
USB port USB 2.0
Remote/headphone jack 3.5mm jack/stereo type
16ohm load impedance
Built-in battery Lithium-polymer rechargeable battery
Dimensions Approx. 109.4 × 73.4 × 21.2 mm (4 3/8 × 3 × 27/32 in.)
(W × H × D Protruding parts excluded)
Weight Approx. 210 g (7.4 oz.) (body only)

Digital camera specifications
Number of effective pixels Approx. 1,200,000 pixels (1280 × 960)
Image pickup device 1/4? MOS (primary color filter)
Shutter shooting distance 40 cm (1 5/8 in.) to infinity

Hyunwon VMP3-DVH-100
http://www.mobiblu.com/product/images/dvh100_photo/dvh100_gallery_img03.jpg
MPEG1/2/2.5 Layer3,WMA,WAV
Bit Rate 8kbps~320kbps, CBR & VBR
Tag ID3 V1,ID3 V2 2.0,ID3 V2 3.0
AVI,ASF
MPEG1/2/2.5, Layer3
DivX3.1/4.xx/5.xx,Xvid,ISO MEEG-4 SP
Video Bit Rate Upto 4Mbps
Audio Bit Rate 8kbps~192kbps
Resolution 720x480 maximum
Video Frame Rate 30fps maximum
Caption SMI Format
video recording: AVI
video type MPEG-4 Sp
audio ADPCM
Video Bit Rate 3Mbps
Audio Bit Rate 128kbps
Resolution 640x480
Baseline(non-progressive)JPG,BMP(4,8,24bit) images
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sunystory@hotmail.com

29-01-2005, 22:25

Sorell SV10
http://myhome.hanafos.com/~mahakala1/boardimg/sv10a.jpg

ilprincipe

29-01-2005, 22:25

sunystory@hotmail.com,
that looks and sounds superb... :) (the Samsung PMP that is)
Just two questions I'm afraid to ask: ;)
- how much
- how big

hiappy,
actually I find the iPod looks a bit like FisherPrice toys,no edges,nothing,a bit boring...Still like it though... :) But it's abit expensive for what you get,even compared to an iRiver... ;)

hiappy

29-01-2005, 22:26

I find it nowadays many companies produce multimedia devices.
Like what sunystory@hotmail.com show the Samsung Digital Square I-station pmp-1000 which is really cool.
Maybe one day multimedia devices can replace PDA.

ilprincipe, I think iPod is expensive becoz of its name & logo.

Karim

29-01-2005, 22:56

I want an MP3 player with MPEG support on a QVGA screen :love:

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 23:00

I want an MP3 player with MPEG support on a QVGA screen :love:

I want a Nokia 6630 :love:

BTW: neat pictures

Karim

29-01-2005, 23:03

Mowbli, sell the damn T610 already ;)

TRicks.

29-01-2005, 23:05

Who would actually buy the T610? i d imagine the Postage would cost more than it... lol

Nokia 6630 - £400++ SIM FREE... :rotate:

TRicks.

30-01-2005, 01:18

ilprincipe

30-01-2005, 02:54

sennheiser are great (mx300 for example or upwards of course ;))

Ghibli

30-01-2005, 07:12

Ghibli, that looks real nice - but again i d imagine its not in Europe again. Asia only i suspect?
Actually I think there's a high chance it'll come to Europe.
I know it'll be available in Singapore for about US$250, and our market is more similar to Europe's than to Japan's, so what comes here usually gets to Europe too.:)

benji

30-01-2005, 09:45

That Samsung square player looks classy :D.

I use Sony MDRJ10 in ear earphones (they have a nice little hook which goes over your ears which stop them from falling off, plus they use neodyium magnets for better sound quality)

Quite cheap too - here (http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=3151&productId=127430&clickfrom=name)

Reguards,

Ben

TRicks.

30-01-2005, 17:20

whats impedence in headphones? whats better - bigger or lower?

Mweb

30-01-2005, 17:57

whats impedence in headphones? whats better - bigger or lower?
Uses less power from the amp to achieve higher volume level!! PS Its a measure of electrical resistance. :D

sunystory@hotmail.com

04-02-2005, 00:28

http://www.dcinside.com/mp3/img/mp3_dah1500.jpg
24mmx24mmx24mm
18g
20hour play time
1GB flash memory
quite a cute mp3

iron_mike010

04-02-2005, 08:34

cant see the pic....

ilprincipe

04-02-2005, 14:21

sunystory@hotmail.com,
looks really cute... :)
Too small for me though,might lose it... :D (if I don't carry it around on a necklace...hehe ;) )

kvee

04-02-2005, 15:24

I have become tired of iPods and sold off my 20gig 3G iPod. This has been replaced with the lovely red colour Sony NW HD3 which was only £220 at Empire Direct. This is now perfectly matched up with my Sony EX71 Fontopia phones.

I think the sound quality of the HD3 has the edge over the iPod. The only gripe I have is the same one with the Euro iPod and that is the volume is not loud enough. The workaround with the iPod was to use euPOD 3rd party software. The Sony could do with something similar.

The problem with Sonicstage software is the lack of instruction on how to use it. Once you have experimented using trial and error you realise that it really straightforward to manage the music files on the HD3.

The soft furry case with the NW3 is a waste of time and useless. Better to get the Sony optional hard case for the NW1 which is perfect as well for the NW3.

TRicks.

13-02-2005, 17:42

This is something I'd love to get, the Olympus MR-100 m:robe.
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2005/pav/39082706/sc001.jpg
Such an achingly gorgeous design, and cheaper than the iPod mini. :love:

lol - it s here! In the UK!!!!! :lol:

but for £179? 5GB? :spy:

sidneylopsides

13-02-2005, 18:47

Anyway..nokia 6630 :) neat....

Whats one of the better headphones to use with a MP3 player? i m looking at some Sennheiser inear headphones, i heard some good stuff about it - wha do you guys use?

:beer:

I got some Sennheiser MX500s and aome Sony EX71s at the same time, the Sony's pwn the Sennheisers.
The Sonys completely closed which means the there is virtually no background noise so sound is clear and full, and you don't need them as loud.
The Sennheisers were ok, not as comfortable and open backed. The only down point to the Sonys is that they are made for units for in line remotes so the wire is very short, there is an extension included but it's really long, so you have loads of extra wire... but it's not that bad :)

Also, the Touch is hard to use, and doesn;t fell as well built as the iPod. It's worth paying more. The HD1 and HD3 are brilliant :D
£179 for the iPod mini with 4GB so it's not that bad...;)

jontyf

19-02-2005, 00:07

The HD1 is still only £150
Im considering getting one (if they have stock)
The problem is that I am NOT a computer genius so I may not be able to convert MP3 to Atrac3. And Ive heard sonicstage2.1 is buggy!

TRicks.

19-02-2005, 01:05

sidneylopsides, MX500, are they the funny blue ones?

jontyf, £150? Argos i presume? Well they are all out. And Sonicstage 2.3 is the latest, its easy converting to atrac3 - just the waiting.

:beer:

jontyf

19-02-2005, 12:47

Thanks, Ill keep that in mind.
I will probabley get a Zen touch instead. :)

sidneylopsides

19-02-2005, 13:18

Mowbli: Yeah, they are. :)

patrick_san460

19-02-2005, 17:26

m:robe looks neat!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Pierre

19-02-2005, 17:37

Hi,

I own an iPod v4 20Gb since christmas :) Great product for most of people but definitively not for geeks. This product currently misses a lot of integrated features such integrated FM radio, direct voice recording, integrated playlists editor, poor screen (OLED better so far..), etc.

I some countries you can get a Samsung Yep or something like for same price.

patrick_san460

19-02-2005, 17:43

Pierre,
try buying an iTalk. it could make your iPod a recorder and a loudspeaker for music. not very loud tho.

Pierre

19-02-2005, 17:48

patrick_san460, I know this accessory but I would prefer it integrated. Anyway, I recently tested a ITrip and another 3rd party accessory for the car too. Awesome.. you can spread music to other car through the FM radio when you are in a traffic jam! This workswith the FM radio of the bus too.. :D

patrick_san460

19-02-2005, 17:57

Pierre,
lol.. you're crazy.. :lol: never tried it in traffic.. haha.. but i use it at home cos i dont have an in-motion accessory. i've heard bad things with it. i'll try it in traffic next time.. :p

Pierre

19-02-2005, 18:06

patrick_san460,

Then you should try the iRock. This device works at 20 meters when you are in your car :up:

patrick_san460

19-02-2005, 18:14

no. can't. my father bought me an iPod and the iTalk so that i could use it for recording lessons when i'm at school. and the iPodcame with a FREE iTrip. ;)
how many meters can the iTrip work anyway?

Pierre

19-02-2005, 18:21

patrick_san460,

Only at home.. 10 meters in some case. Not enough powerful for the car. The song gets some noise.. But the iRock I tested rocks! :up: I can show you more pics of the iRock next week. I'm getting in hand on Sunday again :)

andy.c

19-02-2005, 18:37

patrick_san460, so you record classes with your Ipod. How's the quality and how loud is the recording?

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 01:03

hey! after looking at all the 20gb players and that i realized i don't need that much memory. so i ordered this, its coming monday :rotate: it's 1.5gb i got it from www.advancedmp3players.co.uk .

patrick_san460

20-02-2005, 05:55

odelsteken,
the recording's fine.. cos i often sit at the front row.. cos sometimes the mic catches noise from my classmates.. but it's a good accessory if you ask me. ;) and about the loudspeaker feature? don't try using it.. the voice is too soft.. and when you play mellow songs like "laundromat" by nivea or "if i ain't got you" by alicia keys, it's better to put the headphones back. well, first of all, the loudspeaker is for the recording playback only.. :)

snowboarder_boi,
nice mp3 player.. :) reminds me of samsung in some way.. :p

Pierre,
okay... thanks for the info.. i'll ask my mom if she could give me one.. [the iRock]

sunystory@hotmail.com

20-02-2005, 08:51

i like senn, but i prefer Grado. Grado headphones are a bit too big, not so convenient, but excellent quality. With a 100$ of purchase of Grado SR series, I think it competes with those in the 1000$. The only drawback (perhaps very critical) is that it's not so convenient and comfortable. I also like cresyn, and in fact recent iriver and istation models are equiped with these ear phones:)
Generally, I don't like ipod products, because they don't support higher quality music formats like ogg(iriver, istation, ...), or atrac (sony). I like their design though, pure white color, and simple looking! However, if I were to make a decision between zen and ipod, i would definitely pick ipod.

TRicks.

20-02-2005, 13:14

snowboarder_boi, Congrats! :)

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 14:20

snowboarder_boi, Congrats! :)
cheers mate :beer:

andy.c

20-02-2005, 15:26

snowboarder_boi, thath's good looking piece mp3 player IMO... good pick! ;)

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 16:31

thanks;). I've never heard of the make though, have you?

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 17:07

would the itrip or other ipod accesories work in it? does anyone know?

TRicks.

20-02-2005, 18:02

snowboarder_boi, where are you getting this thing from?

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 19:02

it says in post 126, but www.advancedmp3players.co.uk

TRicks.

20-02-2005, 19:17

I really dont remember it being there before? are you sure you didnt edit the post later? I mean i though you ended the post with ":rotate:"

snowboarder_boi

20-02-2005, 19:29

i edited it, but i did it pretty much straight after. maybe it took time.

snowboarder_boi

21-02-2005, 22:59

well, i got it earlier today and i love it! it's so small and light. from the side it reminds me of a t610! i havn't experimented with it much yet, but i'm very pleased with it! i can't comment on the battery life yet as i havn't used it long enough. i'll get some pics on here as soon as i find my bluetooth dongle.
cheers, joe

TRicks.

21-02-2005, 23:00

snowboarder_boi, glad you like it!

snowboarder_boi

21-02-2005, 23:12

cheers, i took some pics with my webcam, they're not the best quality but ya' no. ;)

andy.c

21-02-2005, 23:20

It looks very stylish... I can see you point about the T610 with the buttons on the side ;) Looking forward to some high quality pics in the future! :D

TRicks.

21-02-2005, 23:21

snowboarder_boi, Maybe you could write a review here and better quality pictures! :)

sunystory@hotmail.com

22-02-2005, 00:45

actually TMode Ibead products are very reliable. They have fascinating mp3's.
http://www.ibead.co.kr/coding/images/IMG_02_05_s01.gif
MP3, WMA, ASF, OGG

32mm x 75mm x 16mm
44g
Full graphic 2 color 4 line OLED LCD
play back 25hours
Win98/SE/ME/2000/XP
MAC 9.x
Linux System(kernel version 2.4)

http://mall.shinsegae.com/images/product/195/11/1118246.gif
http://mall.shinsegae.com/images/product/280/10/1078820.jpg

http://www.ibead.co.kr/coding/images/IMG_02_05_01.gif
MPEG1/ 2 / 2.5 Audio Layer3(.MP3)
Window Media Audio(.WMA ) Ogg Vorbis(.OGG)
42mm x 93mm x 17.9mm
80g 8line Full Graphic LCD, 128 x 128 pixels, 65536 color
10hours
Microsoft Windows 98 / 98 SE / 2000 / ME /XP - Mac / Linux

patrick_san460

03-04-2005, 16:13

sunystory@hotmail.com, the third pic's nicee!! i like!! haha :p

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03-04-2005, 17:45

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