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Mweb
08-01-2005, 10:09
Why spend loads of your lovely hard earned dosh on just a PDA when you can have a Phone/PDA for not much more cash!! The choice of devices is now quite wide and getting cheaper all the time! Why carry two bulky objects around when 1 will do the job just as well :) dont believe me. well up untill recently i was using a Tungsten T3/6600 combinination, this set up has now been replaced by an O2XDA2 which i assure you is superior in every respect!! So all you hardcore Ipaq and Palm users wise up and get an all in one! :lol: ;)

ThreeX
08-01-2005, 11:55
Why spend loads of your lovely hard earned dosh on just a PDA when you can have a Phone/PDA for not much more cash!! The choice of devices is now quite wide and getting cheaper all the time! Why carry two bulky objects around when 1 will do the job just as well :) dont believe me. well up untill recently i was using a Tungsten T3/6600 combinination, this set up has now been replaced by an O2XDA2 which i assure you is superior in every respect!! So all you hardcore Ipaq and Palm users wise up and get an all in one! :lol: ;)
Please God, no.. You´re such a nice guy and i would absolutely love to agree with you... BUT alas i don´t..
I will give you the short version of my point of view:
Sometimes I want to carry with me the smallest phone possible, then i leave iPaq at home..
I see my phone as primarily... a phone i neither want or need a lot of extras on it.
iPaq 4150 - 400mhz Intel CPU
O2XDA2 - ???
And i don´t really think a combo device, costing just a tad more than either the separate phone or PDA is really better than any of them overall? That would be lovely though, fuse 1+1 and get 3 ;)
There´s no doubt in my mind that the XDA2 is plenty good enough, but in no way better than separate devices! Look att stereo equipment, why is it that you can´t get the ultimate performance in one unit?
Back to the original question though, i see your point, but personaly i don´t mind carrying the PDA with me when i need it, and that´s not every day, so that´s actually a con for the XDA2 - ie you will always have to lug around more than you need ;) So for me: Thanks, but i will stick to iPaq/phone method for now :)

Mweb
08-01-2005, 12:03
My XDA carries an IDENTICAL CPU to your Ipaq, and i am certain matches if not exceeds it in every other respect also, With the added advantage of having phone capabilities BUILT IN!! so in the light of these facts i am afraid you are losing out by using your inferior and bulky two box solution!! ;) :D

ThreeX
08-01-2005, 12:11
My XDA carries an IDENTICAL CPU to your Ipaq, and i am certain matches if not exceeds it in every other respect also, With the added advantage of having phone capabilities BUILT IN!! so in the light of these facts i am afraid you are losing out by using your inferior and bulky two box solution!! ;) :D
Ok, so be it then. No problems, i can live with that :)
If nothing else i´ll beat you by shear number *of phones* :D
And i still prefer the realtively un-cluttered UI of a phone for making calls. The main reason i sold P900 was because i thought it was a lesser phone than the T610 i had before it, so i replaced it with iPaq and T630 and was a happier man in the process :)

WesleyW.
08-01-2005, 12:29
I got a LG 510W, it's a really small phone and a PDA Asus A620BT. But why not buy a smartphone? I can tell you some reasons. First of all, the size. As early meantion, sometimes when you go out, like going to a disco, you dont want to carry a size like a PDA, but you want a small cell phone. Second, a smartphone still doesnt have all the function of a PDA, like editing Word-documents. Third, there is a battery problem. A smartphone got a short batterylife. When you are internetting, making document, playing MP3, watching movies etc. your device will quickly empty. That's a big problem if you want to be 24-hour available. Fourth, with a smartphone, you need to charge your battery like every day, and i really hate that. My cell phone i recharge it like every week. My PDA like ever few days, because i am not using it that often. Fifth, there are a few kind of smartphone, small or big. A small one also have disadvantage, like a small green, no touchscreen. You dont want to press the keybuttons to make messages like when you are typing a SMS on your cell phone. It's much quicker using a stylus.

Karim
08-01-2005, 16:29
Often, PDA phones like P900/P910 are not evolved to a stage to compete with a PDA, they often lack some features or UI common sense. But it is not the case with the XDA/MDA/whatever family, windows ppc does the job well :up:

TRicks.
08-01-2005, 16:43
mweb6161, seriously you are not going to use the XDA II are your primary phone? The XDA II is great and is very good compared to most PDAs, i wouldnt mind one...but it wouldnt replace my phone..as i m not sure how u ll use it as a phone though..... :beer: :)

Mweb
08-01-2005, 16:46
mweb6161, seriously you are not going to use the XDA II are your primary phone? The XDA II is great and is very good compared to most PDAs, i wouldnt mind one...but it wouldnt replace my phone..as i m not sure how u ll use it as a phone though..... :beer: :)
The 616v and 7600 are going on Ebay tonight ;)

TRicks.
08-01-2005, 16:46
your precious 7600? whaaaat? How much are you hoping for and is it unlocked? lol :)

Mweb
08-01-2005, 16:50
your precious 7600? whaaaat? How much are you hoping for and is it unlocked? lol :)
Anything above £50 will be a result bearing in mind i paid £30 at the time. it is locked but i have seen codes on the web for free.

Karim
08-01-2005, 21:29
I'd keep the 6600 ;) tbh 7600 is really poopie :) ;) :D

Mweb
08-01-2005, 21:39
I'd keep the 6600 ;) tbh 7600 is really poopie :) ;) :D
keep your fingers crossed ;) this time next week i could sell it and be £2 better off :lol:

Karim
08-01-2005, 21:45
:lol:... but even so, you got for 30 pounds... if anything, you can always resell it for that much, would have used it for a long while, and got your money back!

Mweb
08-01-2005, 21:47
:lol:... but even so, you got for 30 pounds... if anything, you can always resell it for that much, would have used it for a long while, and got your money back!
I will be really cheesed off, I laid out £80 on the XDA so that would be a bonus :D

Karim
08-01-2005, 21:51
80 pounds for the XDA2 is a really good price! congrats

Mweb
08-01-2005, 21:54
80 pounds for the XDA2 is a really good price! congrats
another £16 a month till i die :lol:

Karim
08-01-2005, 21:56
:lol: :lol: :lol: LMAO! hahahah ;) If that's the case, you should have taken the dive for the XDA3! (or whatever the hell it's called, the one with wifi and keyboard ;))

KOM:AT:IK
18-01-2005, 12:51
Smartphone is very tempting, but I really don't like these little hybrid bastards, it is neither a phone nor a PDA, because, as stated above: for a phone it is HUGE (of course if u aren' a proud owner of SE S700 :D ) for a PDA its too big either, for instance the antenna, usually a keyboard, all those flapping covers, gosh! Besdes I do not neet to use the functionality of PDA 24/7 so I can leave it behind if I don't need it and take my trusted *handy* phone, that is why its called handy, right? because its small at hand, maybe we could start calling smartphones *backpacky* or something similar :lol: and imagine, if u r buying a PDA, u r buying a device, which has many hardware elements intagrated into and may require some tweaking (ROM updates, bugs) and if it also integrates a phone and a camera, radio, etc. oh god, I would not want to beta-test those! and the first host of products is usually unfinished development stuff ;) no "smart" phones for me :p (the battery life? WHAT battery life)

ThreeX
18-01-2005, 13:42
Amen! *The stubborn anti- Victorinox-phone iPaq-owning-guy said*

Freddy
22-01-2005, 06:45
I have a XDAIII only it is in the form of a Siemes SX66. Thru Cingular in St. Louis -US. It is balls of steel. Yes it is bigger than my last tiny Nokia but this thing does everything which is why it is worth it. Yes WiFi. I'm on it now. It is very quick. Bluetooth to - so you get a BT ear bud.

This PDA/Phone tackles the Size issue several ways.
-BT ear bud
-Speakerphone ...oh and Conferencing inbound
-regular stereo headset ('cause it does MP3 too)
-hold it normally...it's not that bad as it is smaller than most PDA's but has nice rounded edges...oh. and a slide out QWERTY key pad.
-oh...and i fogot VoIP over WIFI

For this price you can buy a Laptop, but I would rather have this than carry a laptop, pda and phone around, which is what i did before. If i'm in the disco I probably won't hear my phone anyway.

peace out...Freddy

iron_mike010
23-01-2005, 18:45
For this price you can buy a Laptop

dang...
i'd get the laptop.

antway all you guys complaining about size>>>>


check the jam out, its teeny weeny.

Freddy
24-01-2005, 00:30
my problem is that i've got a laptop. it was either this phone, or a treo, or a GPRS card in my laptop along with the wifi card I have. That last options however, gets way too heavy and cumbersome just to get mail and internet

peace out-
dk

Karim
24-01-2005, 02:50
Freddy, I agree, as a matter of fact I might take the dive for a 9500 soon :)

Sector7 R&D personal
24-01-2005, 15:03
Any idea how the XDAII score on the CPU index, file system index, platform index, and Spb Benchmark index test?

Mweb
24-01-2005, 19:51
Any idea how the XDAII score on the CPU index, file system index, platform index, and Spb Benchmark index test?
which is quite impressive!.http://www.jbenchmark.com/index.html?JB=2&B=All&OR=JB&F=2

Sector7 R&D personal
24-01-2005, 19:57
Hello mweb6161, thanks very much.
It scores quite well in the JBenchmark score!

Mweb
24-01-2005, 20:00
Hello mweb6161, thanks very much.
It scores quite well in the JBenchmark score!
It is a superb device!http://www.my-xda.com/xda2.html :beer:

Sector7 R&D personal
24-01-2005, 20:01
Isn't that a very pricy device?

iron_mike010
24-01-2005, 20:04
ah yup!! that it is!!

but remember, it's the best multimedia phone!!!

;)

Sector7 R&D personal
24-01-2005, 20:13
True true, it's one of the top 5 pda phones.
Top 5 PDA phones (http://ups.asia.cnet.com/c/as.ch.pr.handhelds.featurep.1/asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,39139021,00.htm)

Mweb
25-01-2005, 13:50
Full stop!!http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,39108320,00.htm :p

Sector7 R&D personal
25-01-2005, 17:28
That's good to hear.

Freddy
27-01-2005, 08:08
I think it is the same phone. approx. my siemens sx66 was $600 US. pricey. but it has everything + WiFi. This will be huge over the next several years and beyond.

Down side - it does not include the camera like the Imate or orginal HTC Blue Angel. Not sure why. I would rather have the camera then the Qwerty slide out keyboard that I never use. It could be a bad quality camera and I wouldn't care.

I have 20 days or so on Return policy with this phone. Should I hold on to it (Siemens announcement comes out Friday) or should I get another flavor of the same Frequency as Cingular (850 and 1900 Mhz if I remember correctly...very well could be wrong}

Out ;)

saliquincer
27-01-2005, 08:57
mweb6161 ,
bicuz still DELL havent produced any PDA phone like Hp :D !!!
but they want to show us something amazing in 1Q of 2005 :) !!!

megafly
19-02-2005, 21:35
Guys, stop arguing and go get yourselfs XDA mini.

It is all you want, a propper PDA in a cellphone size (and weight too, 150 gr.)

1.3 Mp camera also.



I know i am getting one.

Karim
19-02-2005, 21:46
XDA IIs is better, far far better, than the Mini.

TRicks.
20-02-2005, 00:55
Sod all of this and get yourself a Nokia 6630.

PDA? way out of date (decline in sales etc)...

PDA/Phone - big slab of TFT on your face. "call me on my PDA/phone" - dont work you see.


Smartphone is the way in.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hello Mark.. :D :D :D :D :D

DYER1
21-02-2005, 22:05
oi dont put pdas down!!!!!!! i ve got an ipaq rx3715 and link it to my Moto v3 and i can use it for texting emailing the www its gr8 so dont put em down

megafly
22-02-2005, 12:04
Karim, XDA IIs is also a lot bigger, not like a phone.

kvee
22-02-2005, 23:29
before I got the o2 XDA 11s i was carrying around an iPaq PDA and a phone. Now there is no way i'd do that.

The XDA 11s is just amazing. I've got it rammed with applications like pocket dictionary, TomTom Navigator 3, games, journal bar, spb pocket plus, voiceDialler 3.5, latest 3900 BT stack, betaplayer, KSE Truefax, PHM Regedit, PocketMusic Mp3/wma/ogg player, XCPUScalar CPU overclocker. I've blagged Smartdialler off the XDA mini rom onto my phone. I've added BT facilities patches for a BT keyboard and BT Stereo headphones. I'm using my Sony EX71 phones on it. I've got my Plantronics M3000 BT headset hooked up to the phone. My e-mail accounts are set up on the phone. I'm hooked up to my home wi-fi network. I'm hooked up at work via BT ActiveSync with my contacts and diary. I can use .wma ringtones. I can go on and on and on about how bloody fantastic this PDA phone is. Size? - who cares when it it does all this. I've also got it in the excellent Krusell leather flip case. It looks the dogs bollox.

DYER1
23-02-2005, 22:55
my dads got one of those 3 weeks ago i set it up and got it going downloading the obvious aplications many of wich were mentioned above but i HATE IT it is tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big realy annoying.i love my ipaq alot mor than the xda2s

kvee
25-02-2005, 13:58
Yeah, can you phone anyone on your ipaq?

I've got the ipaq 4150 and I rate the XDA 11s as a better machine. I'm more interested in what the XDA can do for me rather than it's size. The black XDA 11s looks great IMHO.

Mweb
25-02-2005, 14:21
Yeah, can you phone anyone on your ipaq?

I've got the ipaq 4150 and I rate the XDA 11s as a better machine. I'm more interested in what the XDA can do for me rather than it's size. The black XDA 11s looks great IMHO.
Are you watching threex and Odelsteken ;)

rohit
25-02-2005, 22:33
xda's r huge. o2 xda2 made a hole in mi friends trouser poket. he switchd to the o2 mini aftr tht incident.
imo xda2 mini n the smartfones r bettr.
i'd prefer smartfone like 6681, 7710.

ThreeX
25-02-2005, 22:47
Are you watching threex and Odelsteken ;)
I´m watching, but still wouldn´t agree with a shotgun in my mouth :p

Mweb
25-02-2005, 23:01
xda's r huge. o2 xda2 made a hole in mi friends trouser poket. he switchd to the o2 mini aftr tht incident.
imo xda2 mini n the smartfones r bettr.
i'd prefer smartfone like 6681, 7710.
But the XDA has the saving grace of NOT looking like a game gear on acid, and it has a half decent CPU ,and SOME actual SOFTWARE to put on it,!! :lol:

ThreeX
25-02-2005, 23:03
But the XDA has the saving grace of NOT looking like a game gear on acid, and it has a half decent CPU ,and SOME actual SOFTWARE to put on it,!! :lol:
Now that i will agree on! i wouldn´t want to be found shot in a back alley with a 7710 on me! :lol:

rohit
26-02-2005, 09:05
But the XDA has the saving grace of NOT looking like a game gear on acid, and it has a half decent CPU ,and SOME actual SOFTWARE to put on it,!! :lol:

i accept, 7710 is ugly. but its different, n thts more imp for me.
i accept, the xda2 mini is more flexible, n small.
i'd still prefer the 6681.
for 7710, it came out b4 the mini, so i got it, or else, i'd b havin the mini.
but 7710 is almost like the mini, besides the cpu, n cheeper.

DYER1
03-03-2005, 22:28
i can make calls on my pda becos of some third party software my friend put on it and thanks to a bluetooth enabled phone

rrgupta
21-08-2005, 12:16
kvee has said he can blagg the smartdialler from the xda mini. can someone pl let me know how to do that?
before I got the o2 XDA 11s i was carrying around an iPaq PDA and a phone. Now there is no way i'd do that.

The XDA 11s is just amazing. I've got it rammed with applications like pocket dictionary, TomTom Navigator 3, games, journal bar, spb pocket plus, voiceDialler 3.5, latest 3900 BT stack, betaplayer, KSE Truefax, PHM Regedit, PocketMusic Mp3/wma/ogg player, XCPUScalar CPU overclocker. I've blagged Smartdialler off the XDA mini rom onto my phone. I've added BT facilities patches for a BT keyboard and BT Stereo headphones. I'm using my Sony EX71 phones on it. I've got my Plantronics M3000 BT headset hooked up to the phone. My e-mail accounts are set up on the phone. I'm hooked up to my home wi-fi network. I'm hooked up at work via BT ActiveSync with my contacts and diary. I can use .wma ringtones. I can go on and on and on about how bloody fantastic this PDA phone is. Size? - who cares when it it does all this. I've also got it in the excellent Krusell leather flip case. It looks the dogs bollox.

xor
21-08-2005, 14:42
Hi all,

I just bought a Jornada 928 of ebay.
I know,its quite old,but i bought it for like 90 $ ,shipping from canada to europe included.

I was just wondering,what i can / should do with it.
I got the phone part covered with my imode connection,wich should allow me to view any "real" and phone internet pages,when i want,trought gprs.
(too bad i wont have my push imail adress,nor pop3 support trough gprs,but i'll figure out smth)

But,should i f.e buy a gps adaptor,isn't the phone too slow or the screen to old or smth for gps.

I could also go for a wifi card,but when i'm in school,i have my laptop,at work i'm not allowed on the wireless.
I live in downtown brussels,so wifi spots are easily found,but it is really worth the investment and the extra hugeness :p

Well,i guess i can buy all kinds of cards if i can interchange them (is this bad,exchanging the cards lets say daily?)

Any comments ? :-)
Also in general,who had this phone,any remarks?