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when is the hermes coming out? also does it have 2 cams, or just one in the front for 3G?

chokia

Yeah it has TWO cams

http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/htc/htc-hermes.jpg

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is it going to be similar size as the JAM/K JAM or as big as the PDA2K(which is way too big)

iron_mike010

chokia,

u stilldidnt get the universal?! otherwise you should consider the k-jam, its wicked.
seriously the kb and wifi are just wonderful!!

chokia

Oh man congrats with your new "wicked" device, you should write a review on that.

Anyway, since the chinese are still weak in design department, im still waiting for them to revamp universal's look like what the japanese have done to UX50(see below pic)



Aint that fabulous for a 3G PDA phone!

And its camera position and functionality for a Camera, Video call and plenty of room for Optical Zoom folded optic lense.

badger

chokia, This is not a 3G phone. its a palm powered clie.

dansus72

HTC MUSE. I WANT ONE OF THESE BABYS..... AND I WANT IT NOW!!


Q2 06, not fair.

chokia

badger,

I know what they are.

dansus72,

All the above pictures on this page are not HTC Muse, please dont be mistaken.

dansus72

yeh i know, i just want one.

andy.c

HTC Hermes is very appealing IMHO. I'm really interested in getting a Qtek 9100 but the lack of 3G (no EDGE support on my network) and block/letterrecognizer on the Swedish version makes me wait for SE P990i instead.

iron_mike010

when can we expect the hermes btw?

chokia

If i remember right, according to HTC roadmap of 2006 (which already been ordered to remove by HTC lawyers in most mobile sites), Hermes will be available 3rdQ, and Muse at 4th.

FaWzY

WOW, i like Muse & StarTrek
hope they add decent cameras

badger

There is also a HTC trinity.. its the replacment to the Prophet.

Expect more and more HTC devices with GPS

chokia

Im already excited Hermes and Muse are 3.5G (devices with HSDPA 8-10Mbps) compared to 3G only 384Kbps

doviettung

I like to have a PDA with hard-disk, if not the PDA should have the possibility to turn off completely, b'cause turn on the flight mode is only close the phone function and not the PDA function. I'm using O2 mini and i'm glad to have it, but the news models have only some bonus, no big different, so in my opinion, when there r something very very special, i'll change my PDA.... LOL

badger

chokia, Hermes is not HSDPA only 3G and will be on the market April/May..

chokia

Hermes is HSDPA phone check out the spec on top of this page.

Even in most site confirmed it has for instance
http://www.digitaltechnews.com/news/...se_htc_he.html

But HTC confirmed that their HSDPA phones will only be shipped in H2 2006

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...ms_hsdpa_plan/

badger

chokia, I know the text you copyed and pasted states that is will/might have HSPDA, this is incorrect. The device which is being ranged and released by certain networks is a variant of Hermes and is based on the 3G chipset. The HSDPA devices do not apear on the roadmap until the end of the year.

So far HTC only have one 3G device on the market - The variants of the hermes will be the second to hit the market.

Also you have to think - How many HSPDA networks will be live in H2 2006? What good are devices without networks and customer base to use them??

iron_mike010

badger, so the official release date for Hermes is somewhere in april/may? does that mean we shouldnt expect until after june?

because i cant wait to get it to replace my wizard, because the thing is too damn slow! i dont know what the problems are but it sure could use some replacement!

satsuma

Big advantage of Hermes over Wizard is the Intel processor as opposed to weedy TI one.

chokia

badger,

So many news Hermes with HSDPA, i wonder why you keep telling that it is without. And by the way I-mate will name it Imate JASJAM

We know JAM stands for Jim Andrew Morrisson, CEO of imate

Source : http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4917.html

Hoedje

Nice indeed, in your quote the msmobile editor/writer also states that some people made pictures of the (tmobile version of) HTC Hermes. Where can I find them? I don't want those crummy old pictures from way back in november...

chokia

HTC Hermes made its debut appearance with the new look at 3GSM!








It has wizard's keyboard and these specs (cut and paste fr PPCitalia) :-

-Sistema operativo Windows Mobile 5 con AKU 2.0
-Supporto GSM/GPRS Quad Band e UMTS/HSDPA
-Processore Samsung S3C2442 a 300 MHz
-128 MB di ROM e 64 MB di RAM
-Display TFT LCD da 2,8" con risoluzione QVGA a 65.536 colori
-Connessione Bluetooth 2.0
-Connessione Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
-Fotocamera primaria da 2,1 Megapixel con FlashLed e modalit? Macro
-Fotocamera secondario CIF per videochiamate
-Slot di espansione microSD
-Batteria da 1350mAh

Source : www.pocketpcitalia.com

philipp81

Here is another photo of the Hermes http://www.xonio.com/news/news_18701...d1=7400&tid2=0

The text says, that it will be sold in 2Q/2006 by T-Mobile.

chokia

philipp81,

cool!

thanks for sharing and welcome to Mobile-Review

andy.c

chokia, thank you. I think I like the qwerty on HTC Wizard better...

satsuma

Will the 300Mhz Samsung procesor mean that Skype for Pocket PC 2.0 will not run? Not sure about the new QWERTY.

The Fujitsu Seimens Loox T830 looks very attractive with built in GPS and 416Mhz processor.

chokia

satsuma,

Its been reported that Skype 2.0 required at least 400mhz cpu. So i guess you know the answer.

jah

The keyboard looks like the same technology as on the Universal - which is good news. But the RAM is still not enough for WM5 - why plan a device knowing that it does not have sufficient user memory? The SE P990 will give the user 80MB while with HTC devices we get at most 30MB!

Mweb

Q. Why does XDA II have more RAM memory than XDA Exec?
A. You shouldn't compare RAM across the different operating systems as they use RAM very differently. The difference is as follows;

Windows Mobile 5.0 devices use RAM for running programs only.
Windows Mobile 2002/2003 devices split RAM memory in half - between running programs and user data storage (emails, contacts, pictures, videos, Word documents etc.)

So XDA II and XDA Exec use roughly the same amount of RAM for running programs. However XDA Exec stores user data in the Flash ROM memory, as part of the "persistant storage" feature of Windows Mobile 5.0.

It should also be remembered that more RAM impacts battery consumption, so more RAM would require a larger battery.

chokia

mweb6161 ,

I cant remember when i asked that LOL.

Anyway, do you know that HTC's 2.0 megapixel camera module now improved? Even some said its comparable with K750i.

People in PPCSG (www.ppcsg.com) are comparing 2.0mp cams in Atom (made by Quanta) and Dopod818pro / Imate Jamin. The later's cam produces way better images than the former, they even compare with K750i.

My point is, Hermes can be a good consideration if you wish to have smaller, faster (its 3.5G=HSPDA + wifi-g) and better camera (2.1mp) than your pride possession O2 XDA EXEC.

marwan74

is Hermes as thick as the K Jam? also, does it have the same 2 Megapixel camera quality like the JAMin? if yes, then i'm sold!

and last, when is it coming out?

aquila

wow, the specifications are outstanding. and it does look a way better too

satsuma

But is there not a low end skype client for slower processors too?
Also will 300Mhz Samsung processor make this device significantly faster than the Wizard?

marwan74

When is the Hermes coming out?

Hoedje

The 300 mhz proc is faster then a 416 Intel Xscale, so yeah, it will be fast enough for Skype.

The Hermes will be coming out in May/Juni by Tmobile at least in Europe. And it will be released (worldwide ?) by iMate and Qtec etc. in July.

iron_mike010

cant wait for it!
the wizard is good but too slow, now with this faster processor i dont think ill have to change my phone for a long, looong time to come

philipp81

T-Mobile confirms the early appearance of the HTC Hermes...the T-mobile name will be "MDA VARIO II" http://www.t-mobile.de/presse/cebit2...5541-_,00.html

Yes, it will have:
- UMTS
- HSDPA
- Trackwheel
- 2,1 Megapixel Cam

...hope to see more at CEBIT these days!!!

badger

I hear the the front facia is customised by operator, keyboard is standard. Also the HSDPA firmware (some operators might release with HSDPA hardware and provide software upgrade later) wont be ready until late 2006/7...

philipp81

Here are some more News...

HTC Hermes was shown at CEBIT, it also supports EDGE and it has a launch-exclusivity for Germany in June :-) I'm so glad to be in Germany :-) Some more pics and informations click here

iron_mike010

Wunderbar!
Great news, any indications on price though?

philipp81

Here are some more fantastic Pics and a good review http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5011.html

marwan74

im glad they fixed the camera on the Jamin, now if only they would fix the ear speaker on all new iMates.

philipp81

Here is an official data sheet of the MDA Vario II CLICK HERE

iron_mike010

hope this one can run skype though!
cant wait for thise device!!
jasjar i have now is just too bloody huge!!

bigpengu

WoW! Was so looking forward to the SE p990, but now the Hermes might even be release before it! I havent any experiences with any of the HTC devices so how does it compare to the build quality of a p910 e.g? Would the Hermes be a decent performer in the multimedia aspect? e.g watching tv shows and movies on the go? and what are the main differences in your opinion between symbian's UIQ and WM5???

Thank you!

badger

I managed to get my hands on a variant of the hermes last week, it is very quick compaired to the wizard. 300mhz samsung processor.

satsuma

Badger What was scroll wheel functionality like? Does it work in contacts app and telephone app?